The worst had to be the special axle-like bolt on the first version 430 
sectors, I think those were made by PCTel?  If you cranked the nuts down even 
moderately hard to keep it from slipping, it would snap.  I don’t think seizing 
was even the problem, it looked like the inside of the bolt was crystalline and 
just asking to break when you torqued it.  And it was not something you could 
buy at the hardware store or McMaster, and Motorola support was absolutely 
unhelpful about getting a replacement, I ended up having to MacGyver something.

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:13 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gtek Communications deploys PMP 450

Oh, sorry, forgot to mention that. Yes, I'm talking about the long mounting 
bolts and nuts. Haven't had a problem with the short hex head bolts that mate 
the mounts to the antenna itself. Except you really need to crank down on 
those. I tightened them to what I thought was good, but then I could still give 
them a slight push or pull and they moved. So I'm trying to tell the guys to 
make sure those are really nice and snug, but try not to wrench too tight on 
the mast clamp nuts. They did that.. and they still seized.


On 6/19/2015 7:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  OK, on the 450 sectors, my recollection is the elevation adjustments are 
short hex head bolts that go into threaded inserts.  If those are seizing on 
people, I think I will just apply anti-seize goop (the good stuff with nickel 
dust in it) to them before assembly since I do that on the ground and there’s 
no need to touch the threads afterward.

  The ones that clamp it to the pipe are wiz nuts on long threaded bolts, those 
would be harder to use anti-seize on, and would be the best candidates to swap 
out for bronze nuts.


  From: George Skorup 
  Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:13 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gtek Communications deploys PMP 450

  Yup, same here. Had to peak out a Force110 link and couldn't break the 
elevation nut loose, so we had to leave it a few dB off instead of breaking it 
off completely and/or bending the mounting plate.


  On 6/19/2015 5:56 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

    I've had several of the SS nuts seize on the ePMP Force110's... which 
appear to be the exact same nuts as on the slightly-less-than-half a ton 3.65 
sector I just put up.


    I would very much like to see Cambium switch to a different kind of nuts.


    On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

      Have you actually experienced the SS nuts seizing?  Maybe I’ve been 
lucky, but I have not had trouble with that even after years.  I guess I should 
be putting anti-seize compound on them, but it’s so messy.

      Metric silicon bronze nuts look to be expensive, like in the $1 each 
range, to swap them out yourself.  Which of the many nuts would you want to be 
silicon bronze?  Just the 4 that hold it to the pipe?  Or also all the ones 
involved in the elevation adjustment?


      From: George Skorup 
      Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:42 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gtek Communications deploys PMP 450

      I've pulled two up the tower by hand at once and the tower guys didn't 
complain, so they can't be that heavy.

      What I really wish Cambium would do, or talk Laird into doing, is 
replacing the nuts with silicon-bronze like LMG uses on their stuff. Or just go 
to galvanized. The stainless on stainless sucks. They're $500 antennas and I 
shouldn't have to go buy extra shit for them.


      On 6/19/2015 3:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

        I bet it's less than half a ton...don't be so dramatic =P


        Josh Luthman
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        On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Matt <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          > 3GHz and 5GHz I've only used the Cambium/Laird sectors. The 
patterns and
          > null-fill is excellent. So Matt, your new integrated AP antenna 
better be
          > good. :)

          Wish they made the sector mounting hardware out of aluminum.  You get
          4 of them together and they weigh a ton.








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