Right. There is another fee (I don't recall what it was called) our state charges that is based on gross receipts. Check with your CPA's, etc. and see if you're throwing too much money back to the state, but don't do it without knowing for sure.

On 8/5/2015 11:25 AM, David Sovereen wrote:
What is and is not subject to sales tax differs from state to state.

In Michigan and Wisconsin, the two states in which we operate, all telephony services delivered to an address in that state are subject to sales tax—intrastate, interstate, and international. You should definitely check with your state’s sales tax authority before employing what Randy is showing. If your state only taxes intrastate telephony services, then I would agree that Randy’s calculation could be appropriiate.

I am not a lawyer or accountant either. Just want to caution people who are thinking about jumping on the calculation below.

Dave

On Aug 5, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Randy Cosby <dco...@infowest.com <mailto:dco...@infowest.com>> wrote:

Taking this further... If you have to charge/pay state taxes that are not specified as "Gross reciepts" taxes, you charge/pay on the intrastate portion: 35.1% x Tax rate. Using Dave's example assuming a 7% state sales tax rate:

$25 VoIP Bundle
35.1% = Intrastate = $8.78 Intrastate
$8.78 * 7% = $0.61 state sales tax due.

Not an accountant or lawyer, but this is what my telecom consultant has advised us to do.

Oh, and each municipality has a different tax rate here that is added to the state sales tax base. Joy.

Randy

On 8/5/2015 8:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Excellent answer!

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On Aug 5, 2015 10:50 AM, "David Sovereen" <david.sover...@mercury.net <mailto:david.sover...@mercury.net>> wrote:

    USF is a tax on interstate phone services.

    If you charge for intrastate and interstate services separately,
    you can tax the interstate charges at the USF rate.  If you do
    not, and you can determine the percentage of minutes that are
    interstate vs intrastate, you can charge USF on that percentage
    of the total charge.  There are some reporting requirements if
    you are doing this.  Otherwise, you can use the Safe Harbor
    amount which assumes that 64.9% of the bundles
    interstate+intrastate charge is interstate and charge USF on that.

    Example:

    $25 VoIP Bundle
    64.9% = Interstate = $14.40 Interstate
    $14.40 x USF (presently 17.1%) = $2.46 USF due

    Dave


    > On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Simon Westlake
    <simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com> wrote:
    >
    > I seem to vaguely remember someone once telling me it is
    calculated as a percentage of the tax that you assess your
    customer, but that doesn't seem right to me. Googling has proved
    fruitless. Anyone here collect USF and, if so, how do you
    calculate it? Or even if you don't collect USF but know how it
    should be done, that'll work too!





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