-1000

If you just need to file corporate formation papers and nothing else, you can 
probably do it by downloading the free forms your state provides.  Registering 
a DBA name is easy, too.  Usually just a form that doesn’t take a degree to 
figure out how to complete.  Having an attorney is helpful, but by no means 
necessary.  On the other hand, LegalZoom is a complete waste of money.  You 
don’t need to pay LegalZoom unless you like snazzy web interfaces/hate PDFs so 
much that you are willing to pay money to use/avoid one.

HOWEVER FILING THE FORMS ISN’T ALL YOU NEED TO DO!

If all you do is pay the filing fees and file the forms, you haven’t done what 
you need to create a corporation that protects you and your personal assets (or 
other corporate assets), and you may not have done enough to actually transact 
business in the state or location where you are located.  You have to follow a 
number of other corporate formalities, too (corporate books, minutes, 
resolutions, state registrations/licenses, local registrations/licenses, etc.) 
or you will have just wasted your time and money.  As Ken pointed out, most 
states have annual filing requirements, too.

Retaining a lawyer that specializes in this area, as well as a good small 
business accountant, is a must.  Otherwise, you’re risking your business right 
from the start.

Doug


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Legalzoom

+1.

You can do an LLC or an S corp for just the filing fee ($25 in CA). The process 
is fairly simple; even I can do it.

Doing a DBA is also pretty simple, and only costs $10 or $20 to publish.



bp

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On 8/6/2015 6:15 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists wrote:
You probably don’t need a lawyer to file the LLC.  I’ve seen companies that use 
one where the lawyer is payed to fill out a form that is easier to fill out 
then a 1099ez.  Look into getting a LLC form form the state first… you probably 
want a lawyer to draw up your articles of organization though.


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On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Find a local lawyer who specializes in small business, you can set up an LLC or 
S Corp and do the annual filings with the state for a couple hundred dollars a 
year and you will have someone to consult when related stuff comes up.  I use 
these guys (gals, actually), I’m sure there is something similar near you.
http://www.cartertani.com/


From: That One Guy /sarcasm<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Legalzoom

Is this outfit worth dealing with for stuff like a dba for a small business 
that will probably generate 22 bucks and a bad taste in the mouth.
I assume everybody here did this among other things once upon a lonesome. It's 
like 99 to 150 bucks plus the filing fees.
Is a dba something you can muck up on your own?
Doug Hass
Associate
312.786.6502

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