Interesting, I didn’t know that.

Makes sense that it’s possible, just completely non overlapping frequency space 
I guess.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!

You can also run 10G GPON and regular GPON on the same fiber as well.  Sorry 
for the multiple messages.

Regards,
Chuck

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Chuck Hogg 
<ch...@shelbybb.com<mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:
ZTE's OLT 10G modules were not that bad, I just don't remember the ONT's being 
readily available.

Regards,
Chuck

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
At what cost, and 10Gig synchronous?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 4:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!

You can do 10gpon

On Saturday, August 8, 2015, Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
Good suggestions, thanks!

GPON vs active is interesting, but I really wanted to be able to up the ante 
when necessary.
I wasn’t sure with GPON how high I could go.

But with active I am doing a “true” gigabit per customer, limited only by 
upstream switch port density.
The Dell switches have no problem doing multiple 1Gig streams and have 10Gig 
backplane between them on stacking and multiple 10Gig SFP+ ports for upstream.

It’s all data center stuff, so there is no lack of horsepower in this setup.

I do have a couple of Force10 units that I use for higher density projects 
right now such that I can supply the Force10 with 160Gbps backbone and service 
48 10Gig ports to 48 individual CSR switches at 8 1Gig ports each.

Not sure GPON can do that.

I also am planning on 2Gig end user plans soon.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 8:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!

I've been using ZTE lately, and testing Alphion when it comes in.  We have a 
Dasan deployment, ZTE deployment, and soon Alphion on our next one.  Each one 
has it's own issues.  The ZTE I imported direct from China, so my cost per port 
is super cheap.  I got 32 ONT's and a OLT from ZTE and we are at <$5k.  The OLT 
is capable of 8 PON ports per card, for a total of 1024 customers.  Based on 
the ONT pricing as well, we could serve 1,024 customers for something like 
$65/sub all in with optics including the customer ONT.  Can't beat that with AE 
and MikroTik, even with the 260GS.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Mike Hammett 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Waiting for you to figure out a GPON company you like long term so we all can 
steal it.  ;-)


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

________________________________
From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com<mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 5:10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
GPON does all that in one nice switch ;)  Actually happy for residential that 
we made the switch.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
I guess the list doesn't like 2MB file attachments, lol!



-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:35 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!

This time I used a super dense 4U LC fiber panel that can connect up to 576.

I've got about 370 of it loaded with fiber, about a third of that will be 
connected here.

It requires the thinner mil cable which is the only PITA about this setup 
really.

It's using 24 port 1U fiber switches, but I'm still looking for a good Planet 
rep to get the 48 port 1U density.
I could upgrade to those and fill out the entire 12U switch space to match the 
576 panel capacity.
Not going to have 100 percent take rate I'm sure, but it's nice to know I can 
get the density in one cabinet.





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