That should tell you what we have been dealing with for options out there. The transport through the co-op is the real problem. It is ridiculous.
-Ty On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Rarely is Verizon cheaper than anything... ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, September 2, 2015 8:21:23 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik > > Our existing link out of Llano goes across 16 miles of fiber built in > conjunction with the City to get us to a POP for the Co-op West Central > Comm. That gets us transport to San Saba where we get our bandwidth > currently from Central Texas Telephone. Verizon both beat their price and > delivered to us without transport costs right in Llano so I hope it works > out. We are going to keep both for redundancy but put the lion's share on > the cheaper Verizon POP. > > -Ty > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> If you can make it up to San Saba, Windstream and Zayo are there. >> Otherwise, you're in a bit of a drought. A lot of west Texas has been >> filled in by the builds I referenced earlier. >> >> Doesn't help you immediately, but some options for the future. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:57:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik >> >> >> >> We are Central, West of Austin. This new pop is at the far western end of >> our network in little old Llano, TX. >> >> -Ty >> On Sep 1, 2015 10:18 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Where are you at in Texas? There have been a lot of builds in Texas the >> past couple of years. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "Ty Featherling" < tyfeatherl...@gmail.com > >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:52:02 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik >> >> >> Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any >> bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A >> storm came through and caused some major damage and in the process they >> made some major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon >> as they were complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. >> We have been the first to bite since our options in that town are slim. >> They had to do all kinds of work and order some "card" that they needed in >> order to turn our link up once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. >> It has all been delayed multiple times and most recently our turn up was >> delayed a week because Tier 2 was investigating a performance problem on >> the circuit that was limiting it to about 800mbps. They literally called me >> the next day after telling me that to say it was all better but that is why >> I am suspicious. >> >> >> Thanks all, >> Ty >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated......especially >> when the dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided >> in a hand it down manner.... >> >> >> >> ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies >> >> Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and >> conversions were very expensive. >> >> >> >> however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... >> that is ancient......" >> >> For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM >> networks (over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their >> networks over to Ethernet. (hint.. hint.... Ethernet over fiber has less >> regulations vs any kind of TDM) >> >> >> >> The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most >> likely to be due to network path between the the far router he is testing >> with...or something else.... >> >> >> >> I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with >> those results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see >> issues with actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage >> tapering) then I would go back to the Carrier.... >> >> >> >> It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, >> throttled to 700meg.... yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on >> top of l3) then it is possible that there is a congested route..... either >> way it will be a lot easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it >> with actual traffic (if and when that happens) than running iperf tests.... >> >> >> >> Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik >> >> >> >> I asked because AT&T has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP >> ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a >> 10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $. Not sure if Vz does/did the same >> thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were >> limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I >> don't know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE >> network. It's no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy >> the more expensive hand-off. >> >> >> On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR. >> >> -Ty >> On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> What type/provider is your circuit? >> >> >> On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: >> >> >> >> I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't performing at >> gigabit so thanks for the test. >> >> >> -Ty >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, try me at 108.165.31.1, let me know if you can get in and what you >> see. >> >> >> >> It’s a CCR on a 10Gbps connection. >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:10 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have a Mikrotik on a 10 gig connection that I can test to from a >> newly turned up gigabit Verizon circuit? >> >> >> >> >> >> -Ty >> >> >> >> >> > >
