Wow.. I find that extremely interesting … 

 

I’d LOVE to find a way (or rather spend the time finding the right way) to
do this at my house.  My electrical bill at my house is typically around
$400/month.  The challenge is that even at $4800/year or $48k over 10 years
let’s say for simple math – I’m not really sure there is anything in that
price range that could provide for the power I need to be completely off
grid (and sustain for 24-48 hours of limited daylight).

 

Am I totally wrong on this?

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

 

According to a friend of mine "Anything can be built."

We have several solar sites, and when they have enough battery and panels,
they are every bit as reliable as utility power. In fact, one site we have
had installed for 4 years without a single power issue. Our older sites have
had some relatively minor issues, as we learned how to do it.

But first, I would guess that your power requirements are closer to 90 or
100 watts just doing a rough mental calculation.

Take the number of watts you really need (say 100 watts in your case). You
need that 24 hours a day, so multiply that by 24 for 2,400 watt-hours per
day. Multiply that by 10 (now 24,000 watt-hours). That's how much "battery"
you need. Because batteries are rated on 100% discharge, you then need to
double that amount (now at 48,000 watt-hours). Size your batteries according
to that. You want ~~ 48,000 watt-hours of battery (close to 4,000 amp-hours
if using 12 volt batteries).

Then decide on how many watts you can get out of your solar panels on the
worst day (generally December 21). You want your panels capable of fully
recharging the batteries in about 1/2 of the solar time you have on that
worst day. Where we are south of San Francisco, we get about 5 good hours on
December 21 (37th parallel). You're at the 27th parallel, so you probably
get another hour or so.

Just one more anecdote, we have numerous neighbors that live "off the grid".
When the big storms hit, they are usually the only ones that still have
power.




bp
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On 9/10/2015 6:00 PM, Paul McCall wrote:

OK, so I am working with a grounding expert today, getting some opinions on
a couple difficult towers, and one of the first suggestions he has for me as
I mention that I am looking to do fiber / DC up this tower is� �Have you
considered going solar up the tower?�� (to eliminate power surges
completely from going up the tower)

�

Hmmmm�

�

So my brain starts wrestling with that��� Is it practical?�� 

�

Say on a tower with a Netonix DC powered switch running at 48v or 24v,
powering �6 ePMP APs �and 2 �320APs, 2 Mikrotik Bhs, and a small
Mikortik router.� 

�

Would be about 50 watts maximum according to my quick calcs.� 

�

Not knowing anything about solar, has battery technology developed enough
that it would be practical (size wise) to have enough batteries and a charge
controller up in a box on a tower?� And what size solar panel would I need
to drive that?

�

Paul

 

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