and let's not forget that whether you have liability or not, anytime you do 
anything, you have potential costs to defend what you did, even if you're 
right. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:23:22 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee 



I agree with Daniel. Keep it simple. A bonus system works very well for this 
scenario. Yes, you have the liability, but you do anyway when it comes down to 
it. J 



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel White 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:24 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee 

You can always pay a bonus for completing a special project. Employees like 
that because it shows you appreciate them going above and beyond their job 
description, and in this case, keeps you out of any legal grey areas. 

Thank you, 

Daniel White 
[email protected] 
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 
Skype: danieldwhite 
Social: LinkedIn : Twitter 




From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:26 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee 


pay schedule mainly, substantially more than 10/50 but thats the crux there. 

He also wont offer that service as an employee directly since he paid for all 
the training to do it 







On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < [email protected] 
> wrote: 






if you're "letting him off" to do other work, but he's still your employee, how 
are you letting him off? 

i mean, he's still your guy, just doing a different job that may pay at a 
different rate.... 



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----- Original Message ----- 

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:26 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee 


How do you contract an employee but keep him on the clock during business hours 
if the concern is in your attendance policy and you don't want to poss off the 
other employees by letting him off all the time. 

On Sep 22, 2015 12:23 AM, "TJ Trout" < [email protected] > wrote: 


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I tried my best to comprehend your question / rant, but after several tries I 
realized your speaking in poop 



On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
[email protected] > wrote: 
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So if you have an employee who offers a service that you do not, but works a 40 
on your clock how would you handle subcontracting his services on your clock? 
Just for easy numbers, say he's a ten dollar employee, but he bills at fifty. 
You need his services during business hours. You need to bill for it. Aside 
from the obvious separation issues, is this really all that complicated if you 
have an attendance policy this would interfere with? If he's on your dime as an 
employee, but also billing his contracted rate, say you're ok with the double 
dipping, where does the liability for the service lay? From the customers 
perspective, I assume it's simply on the boss. But at the end of the day, how 
would you handle, or not handle that, concessions to attendance? How do you 
deal with the other employees, or is it any of their concern? As a 
subcontractor, I assume you can make it sort of the contract that 'll work is 
represented as the employer 



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