Yes, that is a small lift. That is the cheapest alternative. I am just covering options. We have rented a crane on numerous occasions. I am just looking at turnaround time in the case of an outage. If we have to wait on scheduling the 300' crane it is going to take a few days. I can get the Genie anytime, within a day.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Isn't that a small lift, not a crane? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Sep 29, 2015 10:33 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We must have great deals on cranes around here. I can get a 60' Genie >> for $45 an hour, or $925 a week locally, and then just go up 60'. Not sure >> that is going to be high enough though. That includes delivery and >> dropoff/pickup with a semi. >> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Come to think of it, we pay more than that for an 85’ man-life in >>> Phoenix. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:20 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>> >>> >>> >>> Wow, we paid $5G’s 5 years ago for 180’. For $800, get the crane. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Jeremy >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:57 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>> >>> >>> >>> Ok, the stacks are abandoned and not in use. Crane with a man basket >>> for a day is $800, half a day is $400. The inside is pretty dirty, and I >>> have no intention of going inside of it. I am planning to run shielded >>> liquitite up the side. I don't want to put breakout boxes every 10-15' >>> like I do on towers, so I'll probably run a steel cable with the wire >>> attached through the conduit, to support the cable weight. >>> >>> >>> >>> So the trolley idea is for changing the light at the top, if required? >>> That seems like it would work. The whole thing may turn out to exceed the >>> cost of just going up on the commercial towers next to it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> I would build a rubber tired trolley that will roll up the side of the >>> smokestack. You can lower it to work on the radios and use the cable to >>> pull it back up. Then you only need to go up and attach the pulley one >>> time. If there is no activity in the smokestack, you can run the cable up >>> the inside. Depending on the diameter, you could build some kind of spider >>> type of thing with spring loaded legs to span the inside and get pulled up >>> too. Then it would be stealthy. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would love to work on this idea. >>> >>> >>> >>> I did a tower like this. Used one of those lighting fixtures common at >>> major freeway interchanges. The whole lighting structure lowers on a >>> trolly. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:24 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>> >>> >>> >>> The biggest lift I’ve seen is around 180’. From there you are looking >>> at a crane for $10K per day. Almost cheaper to get a helicopter at that >>> point. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:14 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>> >>> >>> >>> You can build a 300 for tower cheaper than putting a caged last on that >>> thing. I think you are on the right track. Insurance and backups. Insurance >>> should be cheap adding it to what you already have. Maybe a cheaper >>> alternative if you want to be able to climb it are pegs and a safety climb. >>> Pegs with epoxy would take about two minutes each, one every eighteen >>> inches, a hard full days work. >>> >>> I did something similar using industrial sized concrete anchor screws on >>> the face of a brick building years ago. I climbed it last Friday and it is >>> still solid. >>> >>> I think the least effort would obviously be the lift but I have no idea >>> how easy it is to get a lift that big, or expensive. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 2:41 AM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> You price out 200' of caged ladder and installation on a 120 year old >>> brick structure??? >>> >>> On Sep 28, 2015 7:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Get a mason to inspect it, have them install a caged ladder if its safe >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have the opportunity to go up on some of the tallest structures >>> around, but they are smokestacks built in the late 1800s. They are >>> probably 300' tall. I can find a ton of examples of where companies have >>> done this by searching 'smokestack cell tower' on Google Image search, but >>> I have some real concerns. One concern, the stacks in this area seem to >>> have been grandfathered in, as they have no warning lights on top. Two, we >>> live in an earthquake zone. It is not a matter of 'if', but 'when'. So, >>> these will likely come tumbling down. When that happens, are people going >>> to point fingers at the company who added weight to the structure when it >>> crushes someone? >>> >>> >>> >>> There are some obvious engineering hurdles (renting a crane every time >>> there is an issue, or mounting low enough to rent a man lift, adding backup >>> equipment in case of failure, etc.), but those can be overcome. I am >>> primarily concerned about liability, and the potential for having to update >>> the structure to include lighting. Has anyone on this list ever attempted >>> something on the scale of a 300' smokestack from the turn of the century? >>> Any pointers, or specific law firms that I should contact? Seriously >>> debating just scrapping the idea.... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >>> >>> >> >>
