I don’t think any one of my 8 kids ever had a fist fight.  They are all grown 
now.  I would try to get them to spar with me but they didn’t seem interested.  
I have a heavy bag and gloves.  One son scored a nice hit on my chin once.  It 
seemed to scare him a bit and he never wanted to play again.  And I only played 
defense when sparring...

On the other hand, I probably had 2-3 fights every school year.  Was kicked out 
of school for fighting at least once.  
The old way of becoming best friends with a guy through a fistfight doesn’t 
seem to translate to the interwebs.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

I worry about a generation of kids raised on the Internet I encounter out in 
the real world who don’t seem to know a different set of rules apply.  I’m 
surprised more don’t get punched in the nose.  Their real nose, not an 
anonymous, virtual nose.

Speaking of which, this video of Buzz Aldrin never gets old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

That’s probably what my father, who fought in WWII and helped liberate some of 
the death camps, would do today if he were still alive and met one of those 
Holocaust deniers.

I also remember I think it was Mike Royko reporting that after a hockey game at 
Chicago Stadium, a fan had punched Gordie Howe in the fist with his face.  
Google couldn’t find that for me, closest I could find was:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-05-05/news/8602010647_1_fan-bashing-young-man

And to be clear, I’m not threatening to punch anybody in the nose, that’s not 
my point.  I’m saying civility may be a thing of the past online, but it’s 
still a good idea IRL.

Those of you in areas where people routinely carry firearms, does that cause 
people to think twice before insulting other people?  Or is it like the gangs 
in Chicago and they shoot instead of punching noses?  The movie Tombstone was 
on TV yesterday, nice image of uncivil society.

Well, at least our weapon of choice when disrespected isn’t a bomb like some 
parts of the world.


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:05 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

Well, he did say "mostly polite", not completely polite...

And no, you probably shouldn't expect civility anywhere online, or not online, 
for that matter... unless you enjoy being disappointed :P


On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

  So Chucks says “folks are smart and mostly polite” and then you have to ruin 
it.

  I don’t understand why it takes so little provocation these days to use the 
**tard word.  In this case, just because you disagree with some folks.  As I’ve 
turned 65 recently, I’ve noticed people using that language with senior 
citizens because they (we?) don’t move fast enough or something.  Not to 
mention it’s insulting to people with mental retardation, to use that very 
outdated term.

  Should I not expect civility online anywhere?


  From: Philip Rankin 
  Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 1:09 PM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

  Especially with all thee libtard views out there today!

  On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


    It is also a great reminder that people in other parts of the country do 
not necessarily share your views.
    Also a great reminder that the founders of this country really did know 
what they were doing.
    For things to happen in this country you have to AGREE...which is becoming 
more and more difficult ;)

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chuck McCown 
      To: af@afmug.com 
      Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:40 AM
      Subject: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

      This has been fun reading.

      I love this list.  Folks are smart and mostly polite and post some pretty 
      well reasoned arguments on both sides of almost any issue.  This is all 
the 
      social media I need.

      I did want to make a comment about the Illinois FOID card.

      I was a hostage in a bank robbery back in about 1993 in Quincy Illinois. 
      Once it was over and I got out of the bank, I  learned that a co-worker 
had 
      suffered some kind of stress attack and was in the hospital.  That 
afternoon 
      they were out of beds in some of the areas so that took him to the 5th 
      floor.  That is the psych floor.

      Then, it turned out, anyone that gets admitted to a psych ward in 
Illinois 
      gets reported to the FOID people.
      They revoke the FOID card.

      This guy was a big time hunter.  It just about killed him.
      He got some pretty good press and got some political help.  Hot his card 
      back in about 6 weeks.

      So, if you want to keep your FOID stay out of psych wards!





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  Pittsburg, KS  66762

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