I just want everyone to note that I was the adult this time On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed, it's been a fun discussion, but it would be best to stop before we > go too far and people start leaving the list. Perhaps we should have > another list for some of these off topic discussions... > > And on that note, I'll shut up. > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I like arguments, heated ones are the best, but this topic has the >> potential to derail what has always been a very good forum for this >> industry. May I recommend it be closed before somebody gets their panties >> in a bunch and this joint ends up like a dslreports forum? >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com >> > wrote: >> >>> ++++++ 1000 >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> Telrad >>> On Oct 12, 2015 11:53 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> Everyone wants to elect a President based on ideology (or likeability), >>> ignoring that the primary job is to run the executive branch. Eisenhower >>> was probably the last POTUS who came to the job with credentials for >>> effectively running a giant organization. Not saying someone can’t grow to >>> fill the job, look at Reagan and JFK. But seriously, Ben Carson? >>> >>> I see the same mistake in the current contest to see what poor schmuck >>> gets to be Speaker of the House. They want to make it about ideology, and >>> yes it’s about getting the ideology of the majority caucus into >>> legislation, but the Speaker should be a get-stuff-done type, not an >>> ideologue. People still remember Sam Rayburn and Tip O’Neill. Hey, they >>> could bring Newt Gingrich or Denny Hastert out of retirement. Looks like >>> Hastert will avoid jail time, and he could probably use the money after >>> paying all that hush money. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 10:22 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc >>> >>> Your vision of Reagan is of a cartoon character, devoid of reality, >>> factually ignorant, and it vastly insults his memory. Were Reagan president >>> today, you'd be calling him a "libtard." You are clearly under 40 years old. >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> Telrad >>> On Oct 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Nixon was conservative, but with him trying to cover up his crooked >>> tail, we never saw much of anything from him. He was truly ineffective. >>> Ford and Bush?? Hahaha. Not conservative RINO. Reagan, a different >>> story. He wasn't perfect, but in his heart he held conservatism high. >>> There is only one way to preside and that is to work with the other side >>> some. That's when he had to give up his far right position some Nixon is >>> the only conservative that had any bearing on this country in the last 50 >>> years. I should say conservative bearing! >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Nixon Ford Reagan Bush... >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, one. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You know we've had conservative politicians and presidents in the >>>>>> last 50 years right? >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> On Oct 11, 2015 3:52 PM, "Philip Rankin" <wireless...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Since many of you are calling me rude, how about we just reverse >>>>>>> that logic??? How about all of the damage the liberal logic has done to >>>>>>> this country in the past say 50 years???? Is that not rude? You know, >>>>>>> actually it's so far beyond rude, that we can't measure it anymore. >>>>>>> Start >>>>>>> with the debt, the credit ratings of the country, the backdoor payoff >>>>>>> deals, the stupidity of laws that cover laws that should not have ever >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> written in the first place. Or, the stupid recent healthcare law that >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> majority of the population don't want because we were lied to about it. >>>>>>> And then the RINOs bailing out their favorite companies after they got >>>>>>> their kickbacks? And this isn't even the tip of the iceberg. It's all >>>>>>> liberal stupidity. Notice I didn't say Democrat or Republican? It's >>>>>>> libtards! These folk have no concern for their country or their fellow >>>>>>> man. All they want is to line their pockets and control people! Call >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> rude if you like! I haven't even cracked the door on the rudeness these >>>>>>> people have done to all of us including many generations to follow us! >>>>>>> And, while were at it, how about all of those babies that will never >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> an opportunity to join us? What a sickening shame! No, Travesty! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Philip Rankin < >>>>>>> wireless...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Haven't made my point yet Lewis. But, saw enough of those that >>>>>>>> were not in agreement with you in the thread to know that they don't >>>>>>>> believe in "Certain Inalienable Rights" with government here only to >>>>>>>> preserve those rights, not impose someone else's stupidity on me. And, >>>>>>>> that the libs want someone else to take care of them all of the time. >>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>> me, that's retarded and just plain dumb. Now that I look at those that >>>>>>>> have their crazy position and compare that position to their past >>>>>>>> posts on >>>>>>>> here, I now understand some of their past posts here! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not about to let someone shoot me during a convenience store >>>>>>>> holdup. I will die with my 45 in hand before I let the bad guy take >>>>>>>> me or >>>>>>>> anyone else easily. Now, to shoot someone as he is driving away with >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> dvd player as more libtardiness suggested,,,, How dumb! To take a life >>>>>>>> because someone is a thief??? That's just another liberal ploy adage >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> try to make others believe that we shouldn't have those inalienable >>>>>>>> rights. Life is precious, things, not so much! But my life is more >>>>>>>> precious to me than to let someone else try to protect me from halfway >>>>>>>> across the county (The Police)! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, to make my point about your comment "People assume you are out >>>>>>>> of salient points to make." No, I'm just trying to use a concise word >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> describes all the stupidity that today's liberals have stooped to. and >>>>>>>> libtard pretty much does that! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Lewis Bergman < >>>>>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Come on now. Be civil. You only hurt your own argument when you >>>>>>>>> resort to name calling. People assume you are out of salient points >>>>>>>>> to make. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 1:09 PM Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Especially with all thee libtard views out there today! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < >>>>>>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is also a great reminder that people in other parts of the >>>>>>>>>>> country do not necessarily share your views. >>>>>>>>>>> Also a great reminder that the founders of this country really >>>>>>>>>>> did know what they were doing. >>>>>>>>>>> For things to happen in this country you have to AGREE...which >>>>>>>>>>> is becoming more and more difficult ;) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Guns etc >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This has been fun reading. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I love this list. Folks are smart and mostly polite and post >>>>>>>>>>> some pretty >>>>>>>>>>> well reasoned arguments on both sides of almost any issue. This >>>>>>>>>>> is all the >>>>>>>>>>> social media I need. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I did want to make a comment about the Illinois FOID card. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was a hostage in a bank robbery back in about 1993 in Quincy >>>>>>>>>>> Illinois. >>>>>>>>>>> Once it was over and I got out of the bank, I learned that a >>>>>>>>>>> co-worker had >>>>>>>>>>> suffered some kind of stress attack and was in the hospital. >>>>>>>>>>> That afternoon >>>>>>>>>>> they were out of beds in some of the areas so that took him to >>>>>>>>>>> the 5th >>>>>>>>>>> floor. That is the psych floor. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Then, it turned out, anyone that gets admitted to a psych ward >>>>>>>>>>> in Illinois >>>>>>>>>>> gets reported to the FOID people. >>>>>>>>>>> They revoke the FOID card. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This guy was a big time hunter. It just about killed him. >>>>>>>>>>> He got some pretty good press and got some political help. Hot >>>>>>>>>>> his card >>>>>>>>>>> back in about 6 weeks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, if you want to keep your FOID stay out of psych wards! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Philip J. Rankin >>>>>>>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services >>>>>>>>>> PO Box 24 >>>>>>>>>> Pittsburg, KS 66762 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Philip J. Rankin >>>>>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services >>>>>>>> PO Box 24 >>>>>>>> Pittsburg, KS 66762 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Philip J. Rankin >>>>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services >>>>>>> PO Box 24 >>>>>>> Pittsburg, KS 66762 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Philip J. Rankin >>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services >>>>> PO Box 24 >>>>> Pittsburg, KS 66762 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Philip J. Rankin >>> Wireless Telecommunications Services >>> PO Box 24 >>> Pittsburg, KS 66762 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>> computer viruses. >>> >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.