I've never used a CRS, but... aren't they still running plain old Mikrotik
RouterOS? As far as I can tell from the specs, they're pretty much just an
RB2011 with extra ports.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe it has software/features to simplify the L2 switching
> functionality, but the last time I checked, it was still as stupidly
> complex as it always has been.
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> but isnt it different software?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Technically, a L3 switch -is- a router.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Im not understanding something here, As I understand it the CRS are
>>>> layer 3 switches. But I see a lot of communication wanting to use them as
>>>> routers, this seems counterproductive, is there a benefit I am not seeing?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But I think RB2011 and CRS109/125 have pretty much the same CPU and
>>>>> memory, not sure why one the packet processing power would be different
>>>>> between them.
>>>>>
>>>>> In your case with fiber, if you are delivering gigabit Internet to
>>>>> customers, either would probably be underpowered.  Oh, and the WiFi won’t
>>>>> do gigabit either.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 3:20 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CRS109-8G-1S-2HnD-IN vs RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I ignore the model numbers in comparisons.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically if you are switching only, the CRS are ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are routing, you need CPU power for connection tracking etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So look at the CPU(s) of each model instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The cheaper CRS units switching chips will do full line speed and high
>>>>> aggregate as long as the CPU doesn’t have to touch packets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once you implement anything where the CPU is involved inspecting
>>>>> packets throughput drops dramatically IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 1:37 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CRS109-8G-1S-2HnD-IN vs RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can’t compare CRS and RB model numbers.  I think the processor and
>>>>> memory specs are similar if not identical.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure the gigabit ports are a big deal, it just always seems a mess
>>>>> deciding what to plug in where on a 2011.  It’s like deciding which GOP
>>>>> candidates are relegated to the junior varsity debate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Residential users don’t even seem to want wired ports anymore,
>>>>> although businesses still do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 2:30 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CRS109-8G-1S-2HnD-IN vs RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do the model numbers indicate beef? like the 1100 vs 2011, you would
>>>>> think if that is the case the 2011 would be beefier
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone switched from using RB2011 to CRS109 for WiFi SoHo
>>>>> routers?  Any gotchas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Main differences I see are CRS109 has 2 less ports but they are all
>>>>> gigabit, plus it seems to have a fan which might be a negative in some
>>>>> environments. Slightly different form factor, and a little more expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also do I remember some people saying they were experiencing a high
>>>>> failure rate on CRS109?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
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