The awesomeness has to do with side-lobe suppression and making it easier to 
co-locate or simply get a channel in a congested area.  Other things like 
warranty, material build quality, mount design, etc. are all a factor as well.  
Other things like how often are things simply missing in the box (quality 
control).  Stamped parabola vs. machined.



Shipping cost is also a factor.  What about having all antennas for what you’re 
looking at (Jirous, as mentioned, won’t have 6ft thru 15ft)?  You can’t 
reasonably ship antennas over 4ft internationally.



I’ve personally visited 5 licensed antenna manufacturing assembly plants.  
There are a lot of differences between vendors.



I have no experience with Jirous so I have no clue how it stacks up.



Thank you,



Daniel White

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Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

Skype: danieldwhite
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] antennas for B11 (changed subject)



I suspect I’m not the only one here who would disagree and say 11 GHz antennas 
need some degree of awesomeness.



From: Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 11:32 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben



I've worked with the big boy dishes and other than weighing a metric shit ton, 
they didn't live up to the hype of being awesomesauce.

*shrugs* Maybe I don't yet appreciate the subtle differences.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 11:30:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben

Not comparable to a Rocket Dish, not in the same zipcode as a Commscope or 
Radiowaves licensed dish.



(although I do wish Radiowaves would add lift hooks and stiffarm attachment 
points to their 2-3 ft dishes)





From: Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 11:17 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben



Yes, antennas for the B11 is what I was talking about.

Hrm, I didn't have any concerns on the Jirous dishes other than needing to be a 
grand master puzzle solver to assemble them.

Jirous does have a new web site out now that sucks a whole lot less.



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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 11:02:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben

So I’m lost, are you talking about antennas for the B11?  Are you saying Jirous 
is supplying HP 11 GHz antennas?  If that’s correct, I hope the build quality 
is a giant step up from the 5 GHz antennas I’ve bought from them, they are OK 
especially for the price, but I would demand a lot more for a licensed band 
antenna.  I know Jirous has a deep parabolic 3.5 GHz antenna at a higher price 
point, so maybe for more money they can build them better.



From: Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:45 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben



The chocolates? A gentleman never tells....


The radios? $2k/radio with antennas between $400 and $1k, depending on size. 
There will be Jirous 2', 3' and 4' options. Brink will be the importer and 
they'll be available through Streakwave and DoubleRadius. I'm not sure if 
they'll be available through Brink Networks directly.



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From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
<mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 5:25:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben

Estimated pricing?

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote:

Mike has already sent Mimosa thank you chocolates.







Rory Conaway

Triad Wireless



Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations.





-------- Original message --------

From: Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com <mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com> >

Date: 10/14/2015 9:30 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben



Mimosa new 11g backhaul has it!



On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

wavespan Stratum had them years ago   fdd fhss radio ....way way ahead of its 
time...Proxim bought them and no more




Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390 <tel:915-861-1390>



On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

It'd be nice if they had the damned SFP right on the radio, but deaf ears...   
deaf ears...



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:49:20 AM


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben

Ben,



Can you at least give us a range on the price?    We are moving everything that 
direction and have 30+ towers to start, like … now :)   I need to know if this 
is a good option for us



Paul, PDMNet



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower with edgepoint thanks Ben



Yes, it was a joke ;)



On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

It was a joke XD

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
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On Oct 13, 2015 4:38 AM, "Work" <timothy.pct...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Lol ben did you just agree it's not shipping for 2 years?


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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:21 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

got it, shipping in november 2016



On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
<mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com> > wrote:

Pricing will be out within the next month.  Expected to start shipping in 
December.



Thanks!



Ben



On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Work <timothy.pct...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Looks like all my complaining finally paid off for the need of a fiber up the 
tower solution

Can we get a price Ben??





https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgepoint/



@Ben Moore... You know just having me on the think tank team would be a lot 
easier then me making a fuss on the community all the time for products we all 
want and need just saying :)


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