I haven't gotten this out of 5GHz, just too many trees here, but I've done the same with a 12dBi omni and a 19dBi Rootenna on 2.4GHz, something like 13-14 miles.
I've got a 5GHz Airgrid at 7ish miles out 6ft off the ground. Just depends on the terrain. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rory Conaway To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Same question though. What kind of sector, what kind of client radio? The range is amazing, just wondering how much power/antenna gain is being applied. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Same here. Keep in mind that is 10 miles from a tall tower or short tower on a ridge to a customer on another ridge or adequate rise. Clear fresnel, signal in the mid 60s. -Ty On Oct 20, 2015 12:33 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: Mikrotik a and Ubiquiti, 20 MHz. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:31:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT What equipment and channel sizes are you using to do that with? Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT I have. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:20:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT So, do you use OFDM radios at 10 mile distances or something else? Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 8:10 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Yep, you can only do so much with downtilt. in some cases a tower needs to be able to cover a ten mile radius to be practical, sometimes it needs to be able to cover a ridge three miles away that's level with the tower - in those cases, you can't really do much with downtilt. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: Varies. Some a mile or two, some ten. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:54:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Can you please explain further? And how far are you using the towers to cover? Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 7:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT It gets rather difficult to do that in a busy network covering lots of area. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:48:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT But don’t you use down-tilt to minimize the coverage so towers can’t hit each other? Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 7:47 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT It all depends on the particular network and the terrain you're dealing with. If you're mostly doing micro-POPs where your "tower" is a tripod on a house roof (we have several of those), then yes, it isn't such a big deal to be able to sync with other towers, since most of them aren't going to be able to see eachother anyway, but if you're primarily on grain legs and actual towers that are 100'-300' and they might have LOS to a dozen other towers, then it's a very big deal to be able to sync the towers with eachother - if you don't have sync it gets to be a nightmare to try and coordinate everything. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: Multiple towers don’t really matter much with 256QAM OFDM with Ubiquiti because you have to plan on short ranges to get maximum modulation rates. With tighter beam patterns on sectors and even customer radios with 30dBm F/B ratios, the reality is users won’t have multiple towers causing interference anyway. There is more interference from indoor wireless routers than other towers. I think it really only matters on 1 tower. In reality though, you are still better to just plan your Ubiquiti deployment on the tower without GPS and even then, try to stagger the antennas on the tower and keep them as far apart as possible to minimize interference. That’s how we did our last tower. Oh, and use RF Armor. That may change someday but it’s the reality today. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT With the channel size required, or the number of small sectors required to meet bandwidth demands in pmp in the day of ac not having a functional multisite timing solution, whether GPS or goat heartbeat based, it's better to start selling shoes instead of radio's. Just syncing a single site has limited value, all the sites have to play together. Ubnt is like the drunk uncle who promises the world. I like announcements, ubnt has some really good looking marketing, swift peppy videos, and logos and sweet fonts, but it would be nice of uncle drunkey would sober up for a couple days and deliver some product. I'm singling them out because they tend to have the most announced but not out products at any given time. On Oct 18, 2015 1:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: I was studying all that stuff last night. I am rebuilding a tower middle of next week. I already had the AC-Lites ready to go, just wanted to make sure there wasn’t another option. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT They were talking about the new Prism radio, which doesn't have those deficiencies (at least once certified). ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:48:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Yea, I wanted to be there. Got offered several free dinners J and I never turn down food.. But got to play 5 baseball games and 3 of them in the Angels spring training stadium. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT I know you weren't there, which is why I said that. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:41:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Wasn’t there. On a 7 day work week right now. rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Except you missed the announcement in Vegas? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT Except that it doesn’t support UNI-I or even some DFS frequencies. Or is that a limitation of the firmware and not the hardware? Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT >> what is the difference with the current RocketAC that already has the Prism system in it? The RocketAC-Prism has three important new things going on from what I can tell: - TX filtering.. lower OOBE emissions mean higher power on channels closer to the band edge - Expanded RX filtering range.. Old prism was 5480-5850, new prsim is 5150-5850 - GPS Sync is back.. unknown benefits, time will tell.
