In a regular FDD system each end of the system is either a high or a low.
If you use the same frequency as an existing FDD 11 GHz link at the same
site, it would be the same as colocating a "high" radio within 10 meters of
a "low" radio.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >>>Instead, the challenge is in assessing and accepting the risk of
> possibly bucking your own 11GHz links or other operator's 11GHz links on or
> near your two endpoints.  As there is no reliable way to calculate this
> type of interference, you may only become aware of the problem after you
> have installed and turned up your TDMA system.
>
>
> Call me stupid, and please explain how that is ......I can understand the
> issue of channel/polarity availability...however how is this potential
> interference different from current ..... Today, one cannot use the same
> channel/polarity on the same site anyway...
>
> The B11, actually opens up the possibility of channel reuse, on the same
> site with angular separtion ...(possibility being a key word).
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
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> *From: *"Mike Black" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:45:25 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11: Exactly what does the mounting look
> like?
>
> +1 to Tim's remarks in this thread.  The challenge isn't in coordinating
> the same frequency pair in H and V between two sites, in both directions.
> Instead, the challenge is in assessing and accepting the risk of possibly
> bucking your own 11GHz links or other operator's 11GHz links on or near
> your two endpoints.  As there is no reliable way to calculate this type of
> interference, you may only become aware of the problem after you have
> installed and turned up your TDMA system.
>
>
>
> If there are no other 11GHz systems within about a half km of either site
> and you don't plan to expand either site with additional 11GHz equipment
> from other vendors, you may be ok.  If not, then ?
>
>
>
> Mike Black
>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 8:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11: Exactly what does the mounting look like?
>
>
>
> In the olden golden days building the MCI route with full block systems,
> we would have "bucks" or "bumps" in frequency plans when required, and we
> learned first hand how important it was to use ultra high performance
> antennas or better in such situations.  With very little free space loss,
> antenna performance is key and there is very little reliable data on
> close-coupling antenna performance, so it is extremely difficult to
> accurately calculate expected interference levels in these situations.
> With the prevalence of 2&3' antennas these days, antenna isolation will be
> an even larger challenge.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> On 10/19/15 16:56, George Skorup wrote:
>
> >> To make Tim's point, we're co-located on a couple towers with other
>
> >> 11GHz users and using both the high and low of a channel pair at both
>
> >> ends is unpossible. (yes, that's a word :)
>
> >
>
> > It's a perfectly cromulent word.
>
> >
>
> > ~Seth
>
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