UBNT has some nice phones.
-----Original Message-----
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
While I realize different folks, different strokes....
The exact reason why you want to use a appliance, is the very reason why we
don;t.
We find it a lot easier to deal with inhouse systems rather than going thru
the layers of BS from appliance mfg, in troubleshooting, fixing vs spending
endless amount of time on the phone with them.
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:31:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
So for our needs, it's support from another company that is probably the
most
important. Our time is too valuable to build it in-house and support it.
Also, as much as anyone can take a linux box and slap some rules into it,
there are many other things we are looking for that these companies
(Fortinet
in this case) have already done ... UTM signature updates, security
research
labs, R&D testing ... all of this takes time to develop and maintain.
They
also typically do a good job at documenting all of their systems - again,
that
takes an incredible amount of time if built in-house.
Don't get me wrong - we have a large development team in house and build a
lot
of our own solutions. A solution like this involving CPE isn't worth
development time vs just buying appliances from someone.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:
The only value that such appliances offer, is perception and illusion
......which can be of value to certain types of folks and deployment.
They spend a lot of time and money trying to create the warm fuzzy
that they are doing something special with that appliance.. be it a
phone system or firewall.
Most of them are running linux variant with a highly masking web
interface, along with heavily restricted feature capabilities.
One can get a lot more value from other much less expensive systems,
but they do require a small learning curve to deal with...
HostedPBX when done right offers a much better value than any
appliance phone system.
(hosted pbx can be something as simple as Freepbx or any of the other
distros running on a small box or a vm)
Same goes for firewalls... If one has a semi reasonable understanding
of packets and traffic, IP Tables (linux firewall) or a small MT is
much more flexible and reliable that these appliances...
Of course YMMV.
Regards
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:47:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
Their UTM firewalls are outstanding, support impeccable, RMA process
superb.
Firmware updates are a PITA because of the random changes, like taking
out DHCP relay from the GUI requiring CLI. Their sizing calculator is
pretty spot on. They do a decent trade in for competitor replacement,
just send a serial and certificate of destruction.
It does suck if you dont do the maintenance contract you lose some of
the UTM like webfiltering They have some 3com partnership, or they
bought hem, something to that effect.
Their switches are a bit big for the britches, I wasnt impressed.
It can get pricey though
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
wrote:
Interesting …. Anyone use Fortinet gear for anything else? They keep
hitting my radar for certain applications but have no real hands on
with it…. They seem to make a lot of options…
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy
/sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
we do fortinet only
You can do it without a problem
its a good system as long as you realize is a voip pbx in a box, its
not as configurable as some, but thats the beauty, you have a clear
line of can do and cannot do
Its designed to be an end user system as in you sell it to a customer
and they manage it through their support contract with fortinet
We have one customer who did that, he has had good success with self
management, and hes a dolt at times.
They bought Talkswitch so its actually a rebranded but seasoned
system
The virtual pbx is more scalable, but without conversion hardware it
doesnt do pots
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
wrote:
We are looking at upgrading our phone system. Looking at Fortinet.
We have two locations now with separate phone numbers. Wanting to
link the systems over Internet so we can help each other out when one
location or other has too many lines ringing.
What is everyone else using for a phone system and how do they like it?
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