Well, I had no idea you made these.  Thanks!

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I am kinda partial to this one:
>
> http://www.mccowntech.com/dc-power-line-apc-rack-surge-suppressor-protector/
>
> *From:* Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2015 2:33 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE vs DC and surge supression
>
> Not to go too far off track here, but what DC surge protectors have you
> used?  I priced ones from Calix and they were sort of pricey (>100 each).
>
> Josh
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't speak to R56, but the only experience I have with 48V direct DC
>> power is with a WiMAX basestation that the manufacturer claimed the field
>> failures were reduced to almost zero when they started recommending a DC
>> surge protector at the basestation.  My personal view is the one by the BS
>> or AP (and it should be right next to it) is more important than one on the
>> ground.  In our case, if a surge tried to blow out our rectifiers and
>> battery, it would probably just pop a fuse.  Even so, replacing some 48V DC
>> equipment on the ground is no big deal compared to replacing an expensive
>> basestation up on a tower.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Craig Baird
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 3:11 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] POE vs DC and surge supression
>>
>>
>> We've got some Cambium PTP820S radios going up shortly.  We will be
>> running fiber to the radios, so we're debating on POE vs. DC up the
>> tower for powering them.  We have been told by the tower owner that we
>> need to adhere to R56 for lightning protection.
>>
>> Our initial thought was that we would just run POE since we already
>> have the cable, and it would give us an out-of-band management port.
>> But, according to the Cambium installation manual (and I think R56
>> specifies this too), it says that if we're running POE, we're supposed
>> to bond the cable shield to the tower every 50 meters.  I assume that
>> means at the top and bottom since our cable runs are all less than 50
>> meters. In addition, the manual says that we should use Ethernet surge
>> suppressors.  We're thinking "what a pain in the butt".  On the other
>> hand, the Cambium manual does not address grounding for DC cable in
>> any way other than saying that the radio has DC (and Ethernet) surge
>> protection built in.
>>
>> So the DC option is looking pretty attractive compared to the hoops
>> we'll need jump through for ethernet.  I'm wondering if there's
>> something we're missing that the Cambium manual doesn't address.  I
>> figured just to be safe, we would go ahead and put DC surge
>> suppressors at the top and bottom of the DC cable.  Is there anything
>> else needed for R56 adherence in this situation?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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