I think they're expecting you to use Force180 for nearby customers and Force200 for farther customers...
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > Oh wow… maybe I am missing something. > > > > If the KP dish with standard SM does SM dB + 9 dB, and the Force 180 (no > reflector) does standard SM + 3db, did we just lose 6dB of gain (NET) if we > can’t use reflectors? > > > > Paul > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > > > It's turned 90*. I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I > would safely assume it won't illuminate as well as previous. It uses the > same holder but will also use a new one that doesn't suck. > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > > Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated > unit? Does it use the same KP performance reflector? Same holder, etc.? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > > > 2.4 seems to be the best option for access standards > Of course apple really really wants to be the new standard for wifi :) > > On 12/02/2015 01:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I ignore anything 2.4 because I consider it useless in my environment. > Maybe that's it. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. > > > > Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you > thought it would stop at C0498732975928402580SA9S!!!! > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > Yes. I wasn't aware there was a 2.4 version until I heard it here, but > maybe I just wasn't paying attention before. There is definitely a 5 GHz > version. > > > Much nicer to assemble. Much. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > > > So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought it was only 2.4. > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > There is a shortage/lack of Force 110. My reps gave me a heads up a month > ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe. > > > > I've heard the first of the year is supposed to deliver Force 200 5 GHz. > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Yeah, I think the integrated is discontinued... anyway, I certainly > wouldn't wait for them, the Force 180 is the same price and much nicer. > > Is that why there's been a shortage of Force 110s? I thought it was still > going to be a few months until the 5ghz Force 200 was shipping... > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > I've heard that the older lines have been halted with the expectation > everyone is buying the new ones - force 180 and force 200. > > > > I'd suggest using Force 180 and 200 for 5 GHz. > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Louis Arsenault <lo...@ntinet.com> wrote: > > What is the story with the ePMP line? > > I have had ePMP integrated units on back order for several weeks now. > Has Cambium stopped production on them? > Since we are 5Ghz then we should move to the Force 180? > > -- > -Louis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >