I think they're expecting you to use Force180 for nearby customers and
Force200 for farther customers...


Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> Oh wow…    maybe I am missing something.
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> If the KP dish with standard SM does SM dB + 9 dB, and the Force 180 (no
> reflector) does standard SM + 3db, did we just lose 6dB of gain (NET) if we
> can’t use reflectors?
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> Paul
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
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> It's turned 90*.  I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I
> would safely assume it won't illuminate as well as previous.  It uses the
> same holder but will also use a new one that doesn't suck.
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
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> Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated
> unit?   Does it use the same KP performance reflector?  Same holder, etc.?
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
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> 2.4 seems to be the best option for access standards
> Of course apple really really wants to be the new standard for wifi :)
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> On 12/02/2015 01:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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> I ignore anything 2.4 because I consider it useless in my environment.
> Maybe that's it.
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
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> Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands.
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> Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane.  And you
> thought it would stop at C0498732975928402580SA9S!!!!
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> Yes. I wasn't aware there was a 2.4 version until I heard it here, but
> maybe I just wasn't paying attention before. There is definitely a 5 GHz
> version.
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> Much nicer to assemble. Much.
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> *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
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> So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way?  I thought it was only 2.4.
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> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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> There is a shortage/lack of Force 110.  My reps gave me a heads up a month
> ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe.
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> I've heard the first of the year is supposed to deliver Force 200 5 GHz.
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Yeah, I think the integrated is discontinued... anyway, I certainly
> wouldn't wait for them, the Force 180 is the same price and much nicer.
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> Is that why there's been a shortage of Force 110s? I thought it was still
> going to be a few months until the 5ghz Force 200 was shipping...
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> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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> I've heard that the older lines have been halted with the expectation
> everyone is buying the new ones - force 180 and force 200.
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> I'd suggest using Force 180 and 200 for 5 GHz.
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Louis Arsenault <lo...@ntinet.com> wrote:
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> What is the story with the ePMP line?
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> I have had ePMP integrated units on back order for several weeks now.
> Has Cambium stopped production on them?
> Since we are 5Ghz then we should move to the Force 180?
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> -Louis
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