☺

God bless my sister, but she used to think the trees made the wind. After all, 
whenever trees swayed, there was wind….   I kid you not. I love her and she’s a 
force of nature, but heaven help me when I get snookered into disc using 
politics with her.


-          Patrick

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

Im hoping they ban these wind farms, they cause too much wind

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Patrick Leary 
<patrick.le...@telrad.com<mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>> wrote:
Even worse Rory, because then you have many people who claim to know the 
meaning of these labels but they are simply incorrect and are repeating sound 
bites, and/or misapply them as a matter of course, even in contradiction 
without a trace of irony.

…e.g., “Obama is a follower of Reverend Wright!!!,” but is also a Kenyan born 
Muslim.

Go figure. It’s the death of critical thinking in this country. It has spawned 
lots of ignorance. Did you know an elected city zoning board in Woodland, NC 
just banned a solar farm on the grounds that it would steal too much of the 
sun’s energy, thus putting photosynthesis of plants and crops at risk? Yeah, 
that just happened in the U.S.A….in 2015.
http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/


Patrick

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

I think that was misunderstood.  My point was, regardless of the candidates, is 
that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the facts, don’t care about 
the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote that is based on research and 
education.  I can ask 10 people what the Trans Pacific Partnership was about 
and 10 of them won’t have a clue.  Show a picture of Biden to 10 people and I’d 
be surprised if 8 of them recognize him and his position in the government.  
Most of them don’t have any idea of our country’s history, could tell you the 
difference between Democracy, Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought 
in World Wars, the Civil War, or even which side won.  The fact is, even with 
all the resources available to the public today, the average voter is more 
ignorant today than in the past.  The all know the Kardashians but few of them 
could name off their Senators or Congressman.  This isn’t partisan, this is the 
state of our country today.  Picking out supporters of any candidate for being 
ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies


Not trying to offend anyone  on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on 
news...but if you do get offended....I can only say.   If the  shoe 
fits...don't take it off.
On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" 
<part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two opposite 
opinions at the same time.

bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing candidate is 
over simplification and pretty ignorant itself.
Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number of people who 
believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns.
I had to laugh today. I saw  some consultant interviewing a bunch Trump 
supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he was arrogant and 
thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a second. You are a trump 
supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the entire market cornered on that trait?

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

And I like  Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz or Trumps...
On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lets fact check Rory....lol
On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold influence in 
that State Department for billions and took hundreds of millions for bogus 
speeches.  All candidates have followers that really don’t know what’s going on 
so singling out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters who thought Obama 
was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real Einstein moment).  With 90% of 
the people not even knowing who the vice-president is, you can always find 
idiots who will vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he was for some hot political 
topic.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies


The scary  thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his followers...when they are 
interviewed it reminds how narrow minded  they are...they think professional  
wrestling is real among other things  but I might offend some on list...
On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" 
<s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and thoughts on privacy. 
Our politicians are allowed to keep more privacy. In such a case the private 
emails would not be open to a broad audience. I did not say she followed US 
rules.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00)
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
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