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-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i 900 using existing yagi

Dr. McCown.  If separation is important then how do they get away with making 
both antennas essentially the same unit?  I'm sure there is a simple 
explanation.

Chuck McCown wrote:
> Somewhere, in one of my 50 or so antenna books, there is a graph 
> showing mutual coupling of yagi antennas mounted on the same mast with 
> respect to separation.  Right now, I am 50 miles away from those books.
> As I recall, if they are cross polarized, there is very little 
> coupling at close distances.
> I think there is theoretically zero coupling of the far field.  But 
> you get strong reactive nearfield effects at 900 MHz around the 7 inch 
> range or less.  That just means that the two antennas will start 
> throwing off the impedance and resonant frequency of  the other one 
> the closer they get.
> However there is the Radiating Nearfield Distance too. If you are 
> inside that limit the two will mess with each others patterns pretty 
> bad.  That is on the order of 22 inches.  However due to being cross 
> polarized the effects should not be strong.
> So, yeah... 2 feet is good if cross pol.  I don’t think I would not go 
> under 1 foot.
> If you have some time, experiment a bit.
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:09 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450i 900 using existing yagi
>
> Since we are now deploying some 450 900 gear we are pulling down lots 
> of old FSK with M2 Yagi antennas. In general I really like the Cambium 
> yagi they are well thought out and the SM being mounted on it is 
> really clean. Swaps are a breeze. That said I am still thinking about 
> using the M2 in specific situations like tripods. I did some 
> retrofitting today to convert two to slant and we went and tested and 
> got good results. There were separated from each other vertically 
> about 8 inches at the mounting brackets and I didn’t see any issues .
> We got 8x8x line of site.
>
> So my question to the group is, in general is there a rule of thumb to 
> use for vertical separation on dual polarity antennas being mounted 
> like this? Could they be stacked tight near each other?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>
>


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