What speeds are you looking for? You can get about 1meg client side of of
the HAM band if you have the license
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:25 PM timothy steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:13 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
>> I've never had any luck with 2.4 going through much more than the side of
>> an aspen tree.
>>
>> can you set up some 900 test shots?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better?  I can use 5GHz inside
>>> the houses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an
>>> ohm meter, measure the resistance of the needle.  Make sure you jam the
>>> probe into the interior of the thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am guessing that the water content of the needle absorbs some of the
>>> RF energy al la a microwave oven.  But anecdotal evidence over the past
>>> 10-15 years has shown that pine trees are worse than others so if the
>>> needle itself has a fairly low resistance, like 100 ohms, it is acting like
>>> a dipole with a termination resistor.  That is really going to suck up the
>>> signal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stealth aircraft have microwave absorbing foam on some of their surfaces
>>> that operate by similar principles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:13 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm
>>> (~3 1/4 inch).  Ponderosa pine needles (and many other pine needles) are
>>> around the same 3 1/4 inch length
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so with water in the needles you have a big 900Mhz RF
>>> scattering/reflector ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So if you have a minute to please explain how evergreen trees are
>>> terrible on 900 mhz, I would greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ponderosa?  Fir?  Cedar?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The length of the needles matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of
>>> trees?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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