It would be like asking the manufacturer of the lock on your door to
your house to make a key to let the FBI into your house. Why doesn't the
FBI just break the door down?? They are claiming they can't, because the
door is too big. I don't think it's Apple's responsibility to make a key
to allow them in... if the FBI can get in on their own, then great.
The latest news is now the code was actually changed several hours AFTER
the government had the phone in their possession... so now what does
that say? Is the FBI just trying to get Apple to write this code so they
can have it for other phones??
Travis
On 2/19/2016 6:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
If I have a business in Tooele, Utah, I have to have �Knox Box� on the
building with a key in it for the building. The fire department has a
key for all the knox boxes. Is that much more invasive than unlocking
your phone? Nobody is screaming about that. Happens in many cities.
If you have windows in your house, anyone can punch one out and get
into your house. But you all have windows.
Cops can pull you over with probable cause now.
Are you suggesting that if the code gets released in the wild cops
are going to engage in an illegal search using this tool? If they are
going to mess with you they will simply plant something on you.
If this code gets into the wild and is abused in this nature, abut 50
milliseconds later there will be a new version of iOS that will not
work with it.
So, firemen can be trusted, right? More than the NSA? Drunken fireman
buddy with a cop that wants to use the knox box key can be trusted?
The IRS can put all my banking and financial in the cloud now as can
my bank. A disgruntled employee is all it would take. The bank and
the IRS are more trustworthy than the NSA?
I don�t have any family pictures that I would be worried if they got
published. I am just not catching this paranoid cynicism that seems
to be attached to this issue.
*From:* Travis Johnson <mailto:t...@ida.net>
*Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 5:36 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
What if this path continues, and in the future the police officer that
just pulled you over for speeding, suspects you might be up to
something else... so he then takes your phone, unlocks it from his
car, downloads everything to his laptop, and then sends it off to be
inspected? Do you want all your private information (banking,
financial, family pictures, etc.) now "in the cloud" for anyone with
access to see?
Travis
On 2/19/2016 5:23 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
What is wrong with the FBI having this ability?� How does that have
a negative impact on me?
I could argue that it has a positive benefit to the nation.�
�
*From:* Travis Johnson <mailto:t...@ida.net>
*Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 5:15 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
�
I don't think that's the case.... do you really see the FBI turning
the phone over to Apple? What happens if Apple comes back a week
later and says "oops, sorry... we nuked it". The FBI wants Apple to
write a new IOS version that will not erase the phone after 10
attempts at the login code. Then the FBI would load that onto the
phone, and attempt to brute force the phone combo.
At that point, the FBI could do that to any phone in the future as well.
Apple is doing the right thing here.
Travis
On 2/19/2016 4:05 PM, George Skorup wrote:
As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them for.
FBI wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing more. No
"software on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE phone. Get the
data, then incinerate the device.
On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?�
They're just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we give
it to you, and you get us the data off of it'?� I've got to think
that the Engineers at apple have a way to do this thought up.�
Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the phone,
couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply make a bit
by bit copy of the flash chip in the phone and just go through and
try every unlock code?
On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Yup. Google agrees as well.
On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <samtaos...@gmail.com
<mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing.
�
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke
<n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think
that Cook should be in Jail for failing to comply with the
order.�
�
On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
... What?
Seriously?
On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Treason?
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