If you Google "SCPC VSAT" you'll see the geostationary equivalent of what
o3b is competing with... 495ms latency, dedicated 1:1 ratio frequency
allocation, FDD. Usually 2.4 meter and larger sized dishes.

o3b provides a 100/1000 Mbps Ethernet handoff from the satellite modem that
us logically the same, but much lower latency and less $/month per
dedicated Mbps.

>From a router or network equipment perspective the two can be identical, or
different...  An SCPC circuit can be a layer 2 bridge between two modems,
or a /30 OSPF link net, or an IP default route (your ISP owns the far end
and gives you a /29 or 30 and default GW).
On Feb 23, 2016 4:36 PM, "Joe Novak" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I had never heard about O3B. I have always been interested in the tech.
>
>
> https://youtu.be/wseRrx5AO1c
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> Demonstrating LTE over O3B.
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Chris Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They did 20mbps error-free from Earth ground station to LADEE. So yeah,
>> two way communication isn’t quite there yet. Maybe with advances in
>> atmospheric interferometry I’ll be better in both directions in a couple
>> years.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> Velociter Wireless
>>
>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:39 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Viasat-3 going up
>>
>>
>>
>> that was a one way transmission while being tracked by what was basically
>> a multi million dollar optical telescope - for something that a teleport
>> operator can afford, in the price range of a large ku or ka-band dish
>> ($150,000 or less), the tech isn't quite there yet.
>>
>> it wasn't something with two way syn/ack like TCP...
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Chris Wright <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> LADEE did 622mbps from 385,000km (lunar orbit to earth’s surface) two
>> years ago.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_communication_in_space#Flight_tests
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> Velociter Wireless
>>
>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 11:28 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Viasat-3 going up
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that would be a stretch. Getting laser to penetrate even 1 km if
>> atmosphere is tough, and there is quite a bit more of that going straight
>> up.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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>>
>>
>> On 2/23/2016 11:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Do any of these newer satellites use laser as uplink?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:25 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Viasat-3 going up
>>
>>
>>
>> An o3b terminal is an identical pair or motorized, tracking 1.8, 2.4 or
>> 3.0 meter sized dishes. Make-before-break connection. There are some good
>> videos online illustrating how it works.
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2016 10:22 AM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> If the satellite isn't in geo-synchronous orbit then how do you stay
>> locked on to the signal?  Do they have a constellation of satellites?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Chris Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> O3B altitude is 8062km. At that distance, it takes light about  27ms to
>> travel. Multiply that by 4 (CPE -> Sat -> Gateway -> Sat -> CPE) and add a
>> couple ms for frame processing, and you’re at 110ms latency to the provider.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> Velociter Wireless
>>
>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Joe Novak
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:15 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Viasat-3 going up
>>
>>
>>
>> What kind of latency are we talking? Very interesting stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The greatest thing currently happening in satellite telecommunications is
>> not more geostationary ka-band capacity, but the market pricing in
>> wholesale that has happened due to o3b. For locations anywhere below 45
>> degrees latitude o3b provides end to end trunking at a lot less latency,
>> and lower prices then geostationary systems. Viasat and other owners of
>> geostationary capacity have been required to drop the monthly recurring
>> prices for wholesale transponder capacity.
>>
>> The big difference being that an o3b terminal is too expensive by far for
>> an end user, it would be typically used by a medium to large sized Wireless
>> ISP using point-to-multipoint technology for the individual customers. For
>> example a WISP on a pacific island nation state that has no submarine fiber
>> access.
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2016 9:13 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.fastcompany.com/3056618/fast-feed/these-terabit-satellites-will-bring-internet-to-the-remotest-places-on-earth
>>
>>
>>
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>> controversy” – Martin Luther King
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