Some small steps:
http://news.walgreens.com/press-releases/general-news/walgreens-leads-fight-against-prescription-drug-abuse-with-new-programs-to-help-curb-misuse-of-medications-and-the-rise-in-overdose-deaths.htm
The availability of naloxone over the counter may prevent some OD deaths but of
course does not prevent or cure addiction.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 3:12 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT heroin
This may sound oversimplistic, and it probably is to some extent... but in my
opinion nothing is going to change until we quit treating the drug problems in
this country as a criminal issue and start treating them like what they are - a
public health issue. This includes shifting the money spent on 'fighting the
war on drugs' from law enforcement to appropriate treatment and/or deterrent
programs. How much money is being wasted on enforcement while in many areas
there are few resources available for those who want to quit?
As long as people are addicted, there will be a demand for the drugs, and if
there's a demand, there will be a business enterprise which springs up to fill
those needs. If this by necessity has to be a criminal enterprise, you'll find
all of the traditional issues surrounding a criminal enterprise - and
escalating the fight will only escalate the level to which the criminal
enterprise is willing to go through to fill the need. Ending up in a spiral
where the problem only gets progressively worse.
-forrest
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
It is definitely the entrenched problem of several generations now and just
keeps getting worse. The "war on drugs" has been a huge failure no matter who
has been in charge of it. It pains me to think of all the bright, productive
people drugs have consumed over the ages.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:36 AM Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Oxycontin is responsible for a huge resurgence in Heroin use. So many
people are crushing and snorting Oxys and when they can't get them anymore they
turn to Heroin, which is much cheaper and easier to get. It is a nationwide
epidemic that rests firmly on the shoulders of the pharmaceutical industry.
Oxycontin should not be legal. Heroin is evil.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Their maxing crack with kool-aid here and shooting it up!
http://www.bucyrustelegraphforum.com/story/news/2015/12/28/woman-accused-mixing-crack-kool-aid/77978248/
"Kidd alleged Dyer admitted mixing the crack with red Kool-Aid and
shooting it up. In addition to the parole violation, Dyer is now looking at a
charge of drug possession, a fifth-degree felony. The judge set bond for Dyer
at $500,000."
Sad thing is i went to school with that girl and she was not like that at
all back then. She has 4 kids now and she doesn't have custody of any of them.
Only good thing to report on this story is the judge is a customer of mine on
wireless, haha.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Agreed. I didn't mean to sound so final. We help whenever we feel like
we can. We are much more guarded and much wiser about it. Just try mostly to be
aware what help is enabling and what help is real help.
-Ty
-Ty
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Don’t give up on helping, just be jaded and wise about it. Don’t
give them the chance to steal from you. If they call in sick the day after
payday, cut them loose.
From: Ty Featherling
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 7:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT heroin
My wife and I tried to help out a friend that was slipping do the
dark side with painkillers. It ended up costing me a year of drama in my home
for my family and a finding a bunch of stuff had been stolen from under my
nose. We parted ways and he was in jail within 6 months for a non-drug related
charge. It didn't go well. I vowed not to do that to my family again. It's
true, you can't help them, only enable them. If they are actively trying to
escape it, they will have to do it alone.
-Ty
-Ty
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I have attempted to help a bunch of junkies over the years. Very
few success stories. If they escape, they do it themselves. If you hire one,
expect they will steal from you and end up back in jail. Don’t believe a word
they say about anything.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT heroin
So another fella I used to know ODd today. He is the youngest of
three brothers, the oldest having croaked out from overdose a few years ago,
the middle is on the run after cutting an ankle bracelet for heroin charges and
now the mom whom I used to work with gets to put a second son in the dirt.
Somewhere between 10 and 20 of the folks I used to run around with are feeding
worms now, I quit taking actual count some time ago. I personally don't care
about dead junkies, while they're smacked out, they aren't people, just shells
of people, a danger to everyone around them I help the few who can be salvaged,
I'm selfish in that I won't expose my family, but for example, last year I
dropped off a backpack with food toiletries, cigarettes and and blanket to an
old friend who was homeless and in some need, but that's as much as I can
enable these guys. Is this new? Or am I just hitting an age where the sins of
our past begin to catch up?
As an industry, in our scope, is there any reaching out we can do?
We are in people's homes regularly, is there a link to resources we can
provide? Is there any way we can be a part of the solution or are we just to
isolated of an industry to do anything?
I know it's a pick your battles world, nobody can help everybody,
but this is madness, the destruction of so many lives and the collateral damage
from one drug is astounding. Everybody, even homeless junkies are online.
Granted our base tends not to be the smack addled youth, but would things like
resource links on our websites, or outreach program info in our welcome packs
be overstepping our bounds. I'm curious on a personal level because I have no
other resource than my job.
--
Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
