Agreed Lewis > Again, it is hard to believe that the field, both sides, is the best this > country can do.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah The odds are 2/5 on Hillary and 11/4 Trump according to some odds makers. Another has Hillary barely leading in the spread. In Vegas at the moment. I haven't heard Trump banking on women, at least not anymore than anyone else. The biggest thing I have against Trump is he seems extremely thin skinned. He lashes out angrily and that is going to make it difficult to get heads of state to cooperate in any effort. Trump doesn't say what he thinks. Trump says what he thinks you want him to say. Again, it is hard to believe that the field, both sides, is the best this country can do. On Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 10:59 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: When is their giga-factory coming online? I'm suspecting they will be selling more batteries in terms of revenue than cars. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/21/2016 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Not nearly sure as I am of TSLA, up 14% in the last three weeks. I am betting it takes a big jump at the end of the month too. Sometimes I guess right on a gamble. From: Chuck McCown<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Because I am less sure of winning than you are. But certainly willing to bet if I get odds. How sure are you??? ;-) From: Travis Johnson<mailto:t...@ida.net> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Why would I give you odds? $100 bet, clean and simple. :) Travis On 3/21/2016 11:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah but I want odds. 2:1? From: Travis Johnson<mailto:t...@ida.net> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red, regardless of the candidate? Travis On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: So, are you giving odds? I have $100. From: Travis Johnson<mailto:t...@ida.net> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and say "we will never support Trump"... but at the end of the day, both states will be Red... as always. I personally have wanted to get rid of the political parties for a LONG time... let each candidate say what he will do on every subject, and not be associated with these "parties" that really don't mean anything anymore. Republicans used to believe "this", but now, 20 years later, they now believe "this". The parties have no real value or benefit, other than to keep thousands of people employed. Travis On 3/21/2016 10:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Polls already show Utah switching to Democratic vote if Trump is GOP candidate. Have you been watching the news? It’s a big deal, and I believe they are right, Utah won’t stand for Trump. Even if it’s Hilary. And I think Utah in general would be just fine with a Woman president, but maybe I’m wrong. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and win"... yet Utah has voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40 years). I think it's a lot like Idaho, that many people check the first "Republican" box on the first page, and never turn the book to even see who that is or what they even stand for. Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah would vote for Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a state of 50% Mormon, where they don't allow women to hold any real leadership positions? Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted Red for the last 40 years. Travis On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from the auto insurance industry or perhaps a retired school principal? IMO A chief executive should have some experience with the legislative process and some military experience. Foreign policy experience would be something I would look for on a resume. Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or believe some of the hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth. I know the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah. His family are 100 year ILEC owners. Have known them for years. This is what he said after the Trump speech: "I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald Trump did something and said something that I never thought I'd see a candidate for president do and say, especially someone in the Republican Party." "Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd. "A person running for office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if you question his politics, he can question your religion. I have a message for the 3 million people in Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we roll in Utah, and that's not how we roll in the United States of America." From: Travis Johnson<mailto:t...@ida.net> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah It's time for a change... that's the bottom line. Everyone else running is a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics or has wanted to be, their entire life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes. It's time for something different. It's also refreshing to have someone say what they REALLY think... instead of giving lip service for six months before the election, and then having them not do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying what he thinks. Travis On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: He may be super smart and has ideas that really could be good for the country. He may be a super skilled negotiator. He may be lots of things. He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no social graces. I don’t care if he was running for the local chamber of commerce, you just cannot act like that if you want to represent me and my interests. From: Jaime Solorza<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM To: Animal Farm<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in Cauthemoc think Trump is bad for US. On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Trump questioned Romney's faith. Not something you do in Utah. And Romney is a special case. He came in and turned around the winter Olympics here and really saved the day. Kinda a favorite son. From: Kurt Fankhauser<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah What happened on Friday? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405<tel:419-562-6405> fax. 419-617-0110<tel:419-617-0110> On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Latest polls in Utah show: Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”. (Things were not looking great for him but he really shot his own dick off on Friday). Polls now show, if Trump is the other candidate, he loses. No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted... Gotta love Utah!
