I was saying for over a year that something goes screwy with the 450 APs. We had no idea what triggered it. We swapped SyncInjectors, took out surge suppressors, changed grounding and none of it would stop the insanity. I sure did notice a pattern though. Sun went down, things went nuts. Definitely worse in the winter. So the cold absolutely does exacerbate the memory issue. Aaron confirmed that. Then they could finally reproduce it even at room temperature. So I'm pretty sure they have that one figured out now. At least they can fix it with software. FPGA FTW.

On 3/28/2016 10:09 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
Sounds like the cold might be an issue. We have several APs on 13.4 with 200+ days. A few have 264 days.

It never really gets "cold" here. Mid 30s is about the most extreme we've seen this winter.


bp
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On 3/28/2016 1:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
You'll need to reboot the AP. I'm actually really surprised that your AP has been running on 13.4 for 200+ days. I figured you'd have seen some watchdog resets.

Anyway.. we see this somewhat frequently. Sometimes we get SMs failing to register due to "out of range" when clearly they are within range. Same symptoms. They continuously try to register to the same AP. I suspect that they're getting through the registration process cleanly, but whatever is screwed up in memory on the AP causes the session to fail. Or never fully establish from the AP's perspective. So the SM never locks out the sector and attempts to register to another. Other weird things happen too. Reboot AP, works fine again. Until it screws up again. We had a ton more issues when it was colder outside.

Aaron posted a couple weeks ago about the FPGA memory timing problem. As he said, you can't predict what's going to happen when your memory controller and contents are potentially unstable.

On 3/28/2016 2:32 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
in my opinion 13.2.1 and 14.2.1(Build 8) are the only "stable" versions for the 450APs. 14.1.2(build 8) is still beta tho.

2 cents

-sean


On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net <mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> wrote:

    I have a PMP450 AP on 13.4 up for 228 days. The last successful
    CPE reconnect was six days ago. Now we’re noticing that CPE’s
    who disconnect are unable to reconnect to that AP at all.
    Furthermore, in spite of being able to see alternate APs on
    secondary color codes, the CPEs seem intent on connecting to the
    problem AP. Here’s what my SM Registration Failures page looks
    like currently:

    Registration Failures
    Statisticshttp://10.10.10.246/_min.gif?mac_esn=0a003ea081e2

    Number of Registration Grant Failures :

        

    465

    Most Recent Registration Failure
    Listhttp://10.10.10.246/_min.gif?mac_esn=0a003ea081e2

    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:42:45 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:40:10 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:35:09 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:31:26 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:23:52 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:23:14 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:21:49 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:10:46 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:02:56 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    10:01:38 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:58:21 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:54:27 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:51:02 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:49:30 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:40:01 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-a8-67 RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:27:56 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:24:59 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:23:11 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:19:03 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0
    *MAC : *0a-00-3e-a1-95-aa RegReq no time ref 03/28/2016 :
    09:13:24 PDT : Status : 20 Flag : 0

    I’d rather not reboot the AP as I’m fearful it could make the
    problem worse for a few dozen more people. Anyone seen this before?

    Chris Wright

    Network Administrator

    Velociter Wireless

    209-838-1221 x115 <tel:209-838-1221%20x115>





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