Not in the midwest. All blends are E10.
On 4/4/2016 12:55 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Yeah anywhere where boating or motor sports are popular you might find
ethanol free.
I also seem to think the higher octane fuels won't have ethanol, but I
can't remember why I think that.
On 4/4/2016 1:51 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Yup. If you have a marina near you, they will most likely have
ethanol-free gas. You'll pay a little bit more for it though. We keep
a couple cheap gas inverter generators around for spares, but we
primarily use the Yamaha w/ propane.
My truck is apparently so carbon'd up that I cannot run the E10/87
(87 octane my ass) without knocking and the PCM retarding the timing.
I'm running some Shell Nitro with extra detergent added to try to
clean it up. If I could find some of the old GM Top Engine Cleaner,
I'd do that, but the EPA banned it. So they give us shit gas and no
means to clean it. There's nowhere near enough detergent in any of
the regular gasolines. I'm not pulling the heads to clean the
cylinders, F that. I did find out that my truck shuts down at 98MPH
too. Lame.
On 4/4/2016 12:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
The labels say no ethanol!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 4, 2016 12:57 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com
<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
We've started our little Yamaha on a 20# tank at -15F before. It
can be a bitch to get started because of the protection valves
in tanks now. We had one old tank without the valve and it would
fire up on the first pull every time. Now it takes 5-6 pulls
using the choke to get that valve open.
One thing I found out with all of my truck woes and shit
gasoline is that small/carb engines were never designed to run
the ethanol blends. The ethanol is corrosive to non-stainless
fuel systems. This is why all FlexFuel certified systems are
stainless delivery, injector rails, etc.
On 4/4/2016 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yeah, I have run lots of propane generators. Here are a few
problems.
Temperature. If it is -20F outside, you have to have a very
very large tank to generate enough vapor to keep the
generator running.
Conversely you can use a liquid pickup and a vaporizer but
you need heat energy for the vaporizer to get the thing started.
And liquid pickups also pick all the dirt and sludge at the
bottom of the tank. You would not believe the amount of
gunk in those tanks (I cut old ones up for smokers).
And no matter what kind of fuel you use, the starter motor
battery is a common point of failure as is charger. I like
to remote the battery into the heated building if there is a
heated building. Generac was infamous for supplying a
charger that failed and you didn't know until you needed.
I started putting telemetry on all starter motor batteries
on all generators. That is the most important bit of data
you need to monitor.
-----Original Message----- From: George Skorup
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 9:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PSA - check your generators!
Propane
On 4/3/2016 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've had a handful of generators that always started on
the first pull. Until today. Got another one for the
site but started tearing apart the old one and I think
it's a bad carb, something I'll have someone else take a
look at.
Mine are all sitting inside doing nothing, they're
portable with two wheels but require two people or a
ramp to put in the truck. I don't know if I'd buy these
size units again but I really do like the 8.5 gallons
and 24 hour run time...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
