last time there was amajor destabilization over int he former USSR, nuclear
arsenals became unaccounted for, thats kind of a little bit of a big deal

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly, and Russia isn't Libya or Syria... they have a whole lot of nukes.
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Every time we destabilize (nation build) replace dictators (spread
>> democracy) it seems to end much worse than before we started.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:52 AM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>> My question is, why should we (the United States) care? Destabilizing
>> Russia doesn't sound like a great idea to me... and the Russians seem
>> pretty happy with Putin.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> He has been stealing money for a long time.  What do you think happens
>>> if the general population knows it while simultaneously being asked to cut
>>> back further.  Especially if they release how many billions and how many
>>> yachts he owns?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2016 9:44 AM
>>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But... why?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On the Putin issue, all they needed to do was get that information to
>>> the public.  We can do the same thing to Chinese leaders and their kids.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 9:06 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
>>> to Mexico - WSJ
>>>
>>> Iceland tossed all the bad bankers and has shown remarkably low
>>> tolerence for this sort of shenangans since the recession.   Kind of
>>> admirable.   Putin will just toss someone else under yet another bus, or
>>> tank, and doesn't really care.   Remember it's a dictatorship.   What
>>> credibility does a dictator need?   Only that his bad asses are badder
>>> than his threats bad asses.   Anyone who is running for the pres is
>>> going to be insulated from those financial transactions.   Even so don't
>>> forget Whitewater and how that was sidestepped..
>>>
>>> On 4/6/16 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> > Because it's very likely just as many US politicians and senior
>>> > intelligence administration is just as guilty? :P
>>> >
>>> > Can't rock the boat too much or you end up like what Iceland is going
>>> > through right now (and good for them, btw).
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> I have wondered for years why the CIA or NSA didn't just use this
>>> information to destroy the credibility of dictators like Putin.
>>> >>
>>> >> Rory
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:43 AM
>>> >> To: af@afmug.com
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>> >> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>> >>
>>> >> I am incredibly interested to see if Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and/or
>>> Hillary Clinton / Clinton Foundation have bits about them in the Panama
>>> Papers. That could have a very interesting and lasting impact on this
>>> election.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up
>>> front.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The
>>> >>> negotiation is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts
>>> >>> this process and is bound and determined to make it happen,
>>> >>> extremities can be discussed (or thrown out there as shots across
>>> the bow), and then adjustments get made.
>>> >>> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started,
>>> >>> and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that
>>> >>> takes) will get people’s attention.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.
>>> Is it
>>> >>> helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.
>>> There IS
>>> >>> NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.
>>> >>> Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for
>>> >>> everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs
>>> >>> action in so, so many areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to
>>> >>> do anything that isn’t buried in PC or politics or corruption or
>>> power or all of the above.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.
>>> >>> But, I still believe in America and its strength and there is been
>>> >>> absolutely nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its
>>> >>> strength… only further dilution and division and flailing discourse
>>> >>> at an unprecedented level historically.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Paul
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>>> >>> To: Animal Farm
>>> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
>>> >>> to Mexico - WSJ
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say
>>> >>> fucking idiot..oh yes I did
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-t
>>> >>> ra
>>> >>> nsfers-to-mexico-1459892237
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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