Agreed.
At this point all it is doing is alienating people.
No one is changing their mind.
I haven’t followed this one very much but most of the rest quickly turn
personal and cost people respect.
There are some discussions, but mostly there are arguments. Both sides are just
digging in their heels. Not worth it guys.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to
Mexico - WSJ
Maybe use POL instead of OT and I will just filter all of it to my Trash.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
Threaded mail clients FTW?!
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
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From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:03:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to
Mexico - WSJ
It's always had a lot of OT discussion, politics just happens to be a hot
topic right now.
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
I never reply to this stuff because I feel it is a personal opinion from
experiences you have had in your own life, but what the heck happened to this
list? This was the list to go to for everything technical and now it has
turned into a political war zone......
This political rhetoric sucks!
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Jason McKemie
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
Well stated.
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
"The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a
non-issue...PERIOD!
My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked
Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was the
same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans because
most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of Mexico) He forbade
my grandmother from learning Italian because at that time the Italians were
looked down upon (early 1900's)
Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me"
mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have no
compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans migrating
north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of
being a progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this
country being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see
their neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to
gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social
security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the old,
sick and poor from dying on the streets.
I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and
rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society.
What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF?
I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a
million pieces...you reap what you sow.
America is already fucking great!
Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American
politicians act this poorly.
2 cents
-Sean
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up
front.
However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The
negotiation is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this
process and is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be
discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments
get made. The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started,
and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get
people’s attention.
Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course not.
Is it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely. There
IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. Trump is
crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s
benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many areas
and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried in PC or
politics or corruption or power or all of the above.
I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject. But,
I still believe in America and its strength and there is been absolutely
nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only further
dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented level
historically.
Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
to Mexico - WSJ
What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say
fucking idiot..oh yes I did
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
