Fairly well distributed as far as absolute numbers go.
White 19,796,700
Black 10,145,200
Hispanic 13,214,100
But by percentage:
10%
26%
24%
What is poor? If you have hot and cold running water,
electricity, color TV and a microwave you are not poor (compared
to parts of the world where real poverty exists).
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
Transfers toMexico - WSJ
I was wondering about that also, so I looked it up:
http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/
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On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com
<mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:
That is patently false. There are far more poor white people than
poor black people. Now the percentage of blacks as a group might
be higher than the percentage of whites as a group (26% vs 10%),
but the facts are that there are more poor whites. In fact there
are almost double the amount of poor whites as poor blacks (19.7m
vs 10.8m). So, where are all the stories of disenfranchised white
poor people?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
Well the "premiss" of these laws it to prevent fraud. What
actually happens because of the way they are written is that
young and poor people end up having problems voting.
I shouldn't have said black I should have said poor. Not all
black people are poor and not all poor people are black. But the
majority of people below the poverty line happen to be black.
-Sean
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Jay Weekley
<par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
Are blacks supposed to have a different ID than whites?
Sean Heskett wrote:
Also Wisconsin's voter ID law worked as intended to suppress the
student and black vote.
Yay 'Merica 🇺🇸
http://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-caused-major-problems-at-the-polls-last-night/
-Sean
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google
tells me they require one of the following:
* Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public
Safety (DPS)
* Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
* Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
* Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS
* United States military identification card containing the
person’s photograph
* United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s
photograph
* United States passport
Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't
really see anything inconsistent there.
here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable...
and there is a process for obtaining an ID card completely
free if
you can't pay for the necessary documentation. But as far as
requiring a birth certificate to get an ID, how else do you go
about proving that you're actually citizen? I really don't see
anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a
citizen
to be eligible to vote.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>');>> wrote:
The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists
because of gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so
skewed that only a super conservative "republican" could ever
win.
As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee
ballots have a lot of voter fraud but in person voting the
fraud is less than .01%. All the voter ID laws are designed
to suppress in person voting with an illegal "poll tax". Oh
sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you
need
to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your
hunting or fishing license but you can't use a student
ID...even if the student ID was issued by a state school.
Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1.
Fair 2. Make America great?!?!
-Sean
On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett
<af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>');>> wrote:
"conservative minority" HAH!
Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit
less, while indeed a minority fight for or against most
things.
"Progressive liberals" often forget the difference
between
legal and illegal immigration.
If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering
districts
in Illinois, they sure aren't very good at it. Both
parties gerrymander and it sucks.
You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life,
why should the most important thing be any different?
BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly
logical conversation.
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*From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might
Block
Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
"The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt
to solve a non-issue...PERIOD!
My great grandfather was an immigrant from
Italy...when no
one liked Italians. Italy was poor and invading north
africa his motivation was the same as all the South
Americans coming here now (I say South Americans because
most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south
of Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning
Italian
because at that time the Italians were looked down upon
(early 1900's)
Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate
behind me" mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on
immigrants. Those who have no compassion for the Syrians
fleeing oppression or the South Americans migrating north
for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion.
As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking
proud of being a progressive liberal - im so sick and
tired of the agenda of this country being driven by this
damn conservative minority who would rather see their
neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority
because they have to gerrymander districts and enact
"voter ID" laws in order to win. Social security and
Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent
the old, sick and poor from dying on the streets.
I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their
policies and rhetoric have no place in a "civilized"
society.
What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!?
Seriously WTF?
I can't wait to see the republican convention contort
itself into a million pieces...you reap what you sow.
America is already fucking great!
Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to
see American politicians act this poorly.
2 cents
-Sean
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall
<pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this
disclaimer up front.
However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this
guy. The negotiation is just that… a
negotiation. IF he
gets in, and starts this process and is bound and
determined to make it happen, extremities can be
discussed (or thrown out there as shots across the
bow), and then adjustments get made. The point of a
wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started,
and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in
whatever
way that takes) will get people’s attention.
Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration
challenges? Of course not. Is it helpful and one
part of the
total solution needed? absolutely. There IS NO
border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a
façade. Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down
the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s benefit,
including
himself), but this country needs action in so, so
many
areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do
anything that isn’t buried in PC or politics or
corruption or power or all of the above.
I acknowledge that I may be naĂŻve or optimistic
on the
subject. But, I /still believe in America/ and its
strength and there is been absolutely nothing done in
recent time to maintain or increase its strength…
only
further dilution and division and flailing discourse
at an unprecedented level historically.
Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix
our country fan”
Paul
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might
Block
Money Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot....
did I say fucking idiot..oh yes I did
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
