so realistically a good place to start would be 3 x EBIDTA, x his percentage of 
shares (18% i think), and that is probably the most you'd offer ?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chuck McCown 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] shareholder value


  1.5 or 2x revenue has been around for as long as I can remember for any 
company.  But it is totally bogus.  I suppose if you have net earnings of 50% 
then 1.5 x revenue would be EBIDTA x 3.  But how many businesses have a net of 
50%?  Hopefully all of them but in reality most have far less.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 9:32 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] shareholder value

  Everyone's always said 1.5x annual revenue around here.  I don't know how or 
why that started, but that answers your question.


  Josh Luthman
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  On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:

    Hi,

    I'm not sure where you got the 1.5 times revenue number. Every single 
company I have invested or purchased is based on their EBIDTA number, not 
revenue. Generally I am around the 3x annual EBIDTA.

    Travis



    On 4/13/2016 9:14 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

      �
      Good morning - 
      �
      Today we received notice at least one of our shareholders wishes to share 
his stock.�� 
      We have another shareholder who is the widow of one of our founding 
members who also should probably be considering selling - although she is not 
really thinking about it.� We do not know any of her relatives (nephew?) who 
would likely be the heir to her stock.� Her age is currently 81 I believe.
      �
      I know the "ongoing" value for a company is generally 1.5 times annual 
revenue, but the true value of what a company is worth is what someone is 
actually willing to pay for the stock.
      �
      Per our bylaws, the company has 30 days to make an offer before the 
stockholder hits the general market.
      �
      What advice can you give as to what kind of offer the company should give?
      �
      The stockholder likely does not know what the "market rate" is and very 
likely the market rate is not the same here in the deep south.
      �
      I am also curious as to what your thoughts may be on how the stockholder 
may try to sell his stock on the open market.� I feel sure it would not 
consist of a classified ad in the local paper. :)
      �
      Thanks in advance.
      �
      �


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