It’s all about numbers. That $500 tower for zig generated over $3,000 in revenue a month. We were at 275 feet. Didn’t make sense to build our own because we needed the height. Another tower generated over 6k in revenue and cost $700 a month. Both were American Tower sites.
These were in counties where zoning for any tower over 40 feet was crazy. We are talking million dollar homes and towers were unsightly. Sure, you can make the argument that $700 a month would pay for a tower. But, building costs $ and time too. We figured it would be 18 months before a tower was profitable in those instances. No zoning, no permits, no hassle. Pay the money and install customers. At the same time we had towers we traded service or paid $1 a foot. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > On May 2, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Amen to beer > > On May 2, 2016 5:39 PM, "Jon Paul Kelley" <jpkel...@ckswireless.com > <mailto:jpkel...@ckswireless.com>> wrote: > I vote beer. > > > > Jon Paul Kelley > > CKS Wireless > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 6:27 PM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] American Tower > > > > +1000 > > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 5/2/2016 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > I don't want get shot at all > > On May 2, 2016 5:11 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com > <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote: > > A leg shot is one thing, as crutches and prosthetics these days are > amazing. Get shot in the gut though? Not only is it INCREDIBLY > painful, but you'll have all kinds of internal issues for the rest of > your life. > > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Josh Luthman > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: > > You'll lose strength in your leg and can't walk. You can survive a long > > time after a gut shot. More than enough time to get to a hospital. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On May 2, 2016 6:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com > > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > >> > >> I’ll take the leg... > >> > >> From: Josh Luthman > >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:53 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] American Tower > >> > >> I guess that's one way to look at it. I look at as saying I'd rather be > >> shot in the gut than the leg. > >> > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net > >> <mailto:li...@mtin.net>> wrote: > >>> > >>> It’s much better than the $1000-2000 Crown and SBA typically want for 3 > >>> sectors and 2 24” dishes. > >>> > >>> > >>> Justin Wilson > >>> j...@mtin.net <mailto:j...@mtin.net> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> http://www.mtin.net <http://www.mtin.net/> Owner/CEO > >>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth > >>> > >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> COO/Chairman > >>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > >>> > >>> On May 2, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > >>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Little as $500??? > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> On May 2, 2016 5:48 PM, "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net > >>> <mailto:li...@mtin.net>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> American tower is much easier to work with, compared to Crown or SBA. At > >>>> least AT sees a market with WISPs. We have paid as little as $500 a month > >>>> and as much as $1000. > >>>> > >>>> I know the folks who bought us, Bridgemaxx, have done some WISP deals > >>>> with American Tower. Maybe Jim or Andy can comment if they see this. > >>>> > >>>> Justin Wilson > >>>> j...@mtin.net <mailto:j...@mtin.net> > >>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> http://www.mtin.net <http://www.mtin.net/> Owner/CEO > >>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth > >>>> > >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> COO/Chairman > >>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On May 2, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > >>>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Crown is only slightly worse than American tower. > >>>> > >>>> I know you'll be paying for a structural every addition/change. I think > >>>> that's $2500. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Josh Luthman > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > >>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>> Suite 1337 > >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net > >>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> What fees do you need to pay to American Tower other than the > >>>>> application fee? After working with Crown and discovering all the new > >>>>> and > >>>>> innovative ideas they have for charging you before you get on their > >>>>> tower, I > >>>>> just want to make sure that I don’t get any surprises. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO > >>>>> > >>>>> 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 > >>>>> > >>>>> 602-426-0542 <tel:602-426-0542> > >>>>> > >>>>> r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > >>>>> > >>>>> www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> “I wish I could play little league now. I’d be way better than > >>>>> before.” > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > >
