I think cnMaestro was announced about 1 year ago and I believe it was
supposed to replace CNS. It is free (but only cloud based at this point,
apparently eventual separate installations will have licensing fees). I
recall conversations where it was supposed to handle remote monitoring of
ePMP, cnPilot (their WiFi routers and APs), PMP100, and PMP450. It only
does ePMP and cnPilot right now.. and I don't think it will ever do PMP100.
It sees [very] slow but steady improvement, but it does not even have an
alerting system yet (which is good, because there are false positives on
ePMP hardware all the time). It allows for remote provisioning of ePMP and
cnPilot products, and has some basic graphing and data collection.

I use it for cnPilot with good results. It could use some more features,
but they seem to be working on them.

I still see very mixed results with ePMP monitoring.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:50 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> is cnmaestro another platform toy theyll get bored with right after we
> vest in it as has historically been the case with cambium/motorola or am i
> just still holding a baseless grudge over prizm?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> Calix has a manged router platform called consumer connect. 844E is a
>> dual band AC router with ethernet wan.
>>
>> Cambium is also rolling a managed router platform with cnmaestro. I
>> honestly don't know enough about the routers.
>> On Jun 2, 2016 9:59 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Im lost, I see this calix thrown around and there was an intermingling
>>> of cnmaestro, whats the buzz? tell me whats happening
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The ILEC I manage.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:28 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?
>>>>
>>>> Who is "we"???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are doing $8
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:00 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?
>>>>>
>>>>> We started doing it on our fiber network with 844E and we have over a
>>>>> 90% take rate at $7.  The only mistake I made was starting at $7  :)
>>>>> Calix can be a bit of a pain to buy from.  And maybe if you are just
>>>>> wanting to buy routers even more of a pain, I am not sure.  But once you
>>>>> are setup with them, they are awesome.  Gino I saw again that you are 
>>>>> still
>>>>> waiting, did they ever call you?  My sales rep keeps telling me he is
>>>>> hitting up your sales rep?  Maybe yours spends to much time on the beach
>>>>> drinking mai tai’s Ill send another email out for you…
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <
>>>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 8:38 PM
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pricing for Managed Customer Routers?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to assume it involves sacrificing a goat during the full
>>>>> moon over a pentagram while chanting "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh
>>>>> wgah'nagl fhtagn", because after signing an NDA and describing what I'm
>>>>> looking for pricing on, I didn't get much useful info back...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Jon Langeler <
>>>>> jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you place orders with Calix? I sent them all my paperwork and
>>>>>> listened to their marketing blurbs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon Langeler
>>>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:41 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "managed wifi" means they can call us at anytime for help with
>>>>>> anything they need their router to do.  wifi password, parental controls,
>>>>>> port forwarding etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we receive exactly zero calls per month from our clients that have
>>>>>> our calix gigacenter 844E :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what does managed wifi consist of?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We opted not to do anything with the free wireless we give out
>>>>>>> beyond shutting it off if they have problems. Too many customers who 
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> the equipment installed in their basement and coverage to their detached
>>>>>>> garage, inside their refrigerator, up in the attic, through 7 walls and 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> TV.... no thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we charge a $99 "setup fee" for our "managed wifi service" which
>>>>>>>> costs $12/mo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the router remains our property and we replace it if need be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At that price i expected the take rate to be lower than what it is
>>>>>>>> (we priced it high so that we could run specials ;-) but we've been 
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> pleased with the take rate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Christopher Gray <
>>>>>>>> cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All this looking cnPilot and GigaCenter has me thinking about
>>>>>>>>> pricing models for managed customer routers...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What pricing models are others using for the R200/R201/844E
>>>>>>>>> managed home routers? Do you sell the customer the router, lease it, 
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> give it, charge for management, sell it without management, etc?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [During a promotional time, I have been using the R200 and sell it
>>>>>>>>> to new customers for $50 (at a loss to help adoption). Then, I don't 
>>>>>>>>> charge
>>>>>>>>> for remote management. I've been pretty pleased, but I'm debating 
>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>> to sell the router (since it requires convincing the customer) or just
>>>>>>>>> including it. Also, I want to start charging for management, but I'm 
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> sure what a reasonable rate is. I recognize it will vary by area, but 
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> looking for some ballpark numbers.]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

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