*nods* MPLS or CE or some of their relatives. You still need L3 for MPLS (I haven't deployed CE or relatives), but getting above the basic L2 devices is imperative.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:40:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi as a SP, you want MPLS Get Outlook for iOS On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 5:06 PM +0200, "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: I think the point is that Layer3 scales better. For something simple you can keep it simple, but as the network gets larger you always end up wanting Layer3 so as an ISP you might as well just start where you're going to end up anyway. It's also safer to keep the broadcast domain small. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/14/2016 10:27:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi <blockquote> I am missing something here. What is wrong with using a $6000 microwave as a piece of long CAT 5? Point A to Point B extending your reach. Why complicate it with layer 3? From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi Switch? If people do layer 2 over $6,000+ microwave for backbone links between two POPs, that is a really bad idea in my opinion. WISPs love to build layer 2 clusterfucks because a lot of small ones start with basically no OSPF or BGP knowledge. Show me a real router platform that is in common use that supports 2.5 Gbps SFP (not SFP+ on a rate limited port). On Jun 11, 2016 10:29 AM, "Jon Auer" < j...@tapodi.net > wrote: <blockquote> Adtran NetVanta 1544 Ethernet switches (24xGigE, 4xSFP) have been 2.5G capable since 2009. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for fiber channel storage array applications (example: Cisco MDS9000) but you will not see them used in ethernet speaking routers/switches. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Erich Kaiser < er...@northcentraltower.com > wrote: <blockquote> Check with John, but I thought he said something about a 2.5Gbps SFP, not sure why they did not go 10G.... Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Cassidy B. Larson < c...@infowest.com > wrote: <blockquote> So I’m checking out the new Trango StrataPro data sheets… The Xi model appears to do 4Gbps full-duplex.. but no 10G SFP+.. So I’d have to use all three SFPs, and one copper gig to get it? Other notes: it appears they’re keying it up.. so you get to pay extra to unlock capacity to 1100Mbps and again to unlock max capacity to 2200Mbps. Oh and if you want AES-256, you get to pay again. The 1MB packet buffer.. seems low. Anybody else have any thoughts? Anybody got one yet? -c </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
