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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > The beam pattern size in 5GHz doesn’t matter. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2016 8:51 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > I'd assume so, but I don't know. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, June 27, 2016 10:49:23 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > Are the approximate 12° beams small enough to qualify for PTP rules? > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 6/27/2016 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > 4 chains over 360 degrees vs. 14 chains over 90 degrees. > > The Quamni doesn't really count when looking at a non-micro-POP model. It > wouldn't be narrow enough to qualify for any PtP rules. To me it's > preferential in situations where cost or aesthetics are important, but not > for performance (RF or IP). > > It's technically similar, but that's comparing a Cruze and a Vette in that > they're both cars. That said, it'll be a closer comparison when the 8x8 A5c > is available and on a 90* sector. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> <r...@triadwireless.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, June 27, 2016 10:29:55 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > Please explain. 4 sectors, lights up the 1 or 2 sectors the CPE connects > to. Or are you referring to the sector being 90 degrees instead of > something like 10 degrees? Just for the record, 2.4GHz has much more > benefit with beam steering antennas than 5GHz. 2.4GHz can bring the power > output up and take advantage of PTP rules unless that has changed. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2016 6:15 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > Not even close. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:00:40 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > I think it’s called an Mimosa A5. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2016 6:13 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > I would love to see an omni beemsteering antenna in 5ghz. > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > As wide as 360 degrees? > > > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:04 PM > > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > That is why they said 'about 3-4 times the throughput'. > > > > The better the spacial diversity the better the throughput - they can get > 7x if everything is aligned correctly. > > > > You also need to remember that these aren't fixed beams - they're > dynamically pointable, and my understanding is that it can be re-pointed in > each timeslot, so as long as all of your customers aren't in a very narrow > slice, and are relatively spread out, you should gain something. > > > > The other thought is that this is going to encourage people to move to as > wide of sector as possible to improve the beamsteering performance. > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < > lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So if i have a tower like the one below with customers spaced out > accordingly, alot of the customers are going to fall wthin 1 or 2 of the 6 > degree "strip patches" on the antenna and thus i wont see as much > throughput increase per AP? :( > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can't do that kind of spatial diversity in a PTP link. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 6/22/2016 10:11 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > Will there be a PTP version of Medusa that can triple the throughput of > existing PTP650 links on the same channel width? I am wondering why the > same massive-mimo can't be applied to PTP so a 450mbps PTP650 link running > on 45mhz channel can then achieve 1.35Gbps on the same 45mhz channel? > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > Are these uplink and downlink? > > The epmp 2000 is only uplink. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jun 22, 2016 12:54 PM, "Peter Kranz" <pkr...@unwiredltd.com> wrote: > > With the ETI beamformer antenna.. you get ~20db gain since you have the > electrical capture of all the active antennas going on.. in theory creating > a high gain very narrow spot beam of 15 degrees or so.. 14 implies > something else.. > > > > > *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > Mobile: 510-207-0000 > pkr...@unwiredltd.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:51 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > They beam-form the power coming in. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 6/22/2016 9:40 AM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > > Over poe though? That’s pushing a lot of watts over it, I didn’t hear > them say it had a separate power port? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:40 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > 48v to 56 or 59v I believe > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Craig Schmaderer < > cr...@skywaveconnect.com> wrote: > > Spec sheet says 70watts, how are we going to power this thing, they never > said the power options did they? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:37 AM > > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > Yes there is a GigE roadmap that includes 40MHz channels. > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > dwh...@converge-tech.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:30 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > > > Any plans to offer 40mhz channel on this thing for 800-1000mbps throughput? > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > That does a lot of nothing now. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:21:33 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450m > > Take whatever you like from here: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9JfpcaZRA > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 6/22/2016 9:17 AM, Matt wrote: > > There is a webinar going on now as we speak introducing the product. > > Is there anywhere to download slides or video from the webinar? > > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Forrest Christian* *CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* > > Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 > > forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> > <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> > > > > > > > > > > >
