Preach, Lewis!  There are people that will simply wait until they're
disconnected before paying.  We do a $5 late fee, which I feel is on the
low end as well.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I will tell you what does make a big difference is late fees. We made an
> additional ~$2K per month off late fees. They paid late with the fee and I
> was happy for them to do it. That was based off a $5 late fee which when
> compared to the average, which I think responses indicated to be about $7,
> were pretty lenient. If I had it to do over I would have charged $7.50 I
> think. think of it like a payday loan. These idiots are mare than happy to
> pay you just a few days late and pay extra. The funny thing is that it
> doesn't matter if it is the 1st, 15th, 20th, or whatever. They always pay
> late.
> I just figured there was no reason that the good paying customers should
> be carrying the bad payers.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:23 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <
> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>
>> In the end, it doesn’t matter if it is pre or post billing.  It may give
>> you heartburn to see non-pays getting something for nothing for a month but
>> in the grand scheme of things, it makes no difference because we have fixed
>> monthly costs.  If they pay or not doesn’t affect our OPEX.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Bouse
>>
>> Owner
>>
>> Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi
>>
>> 979-985-5912
>>
>> j...@brazoswifi.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 6:15 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Postpaid vs Prepaid / Bill in Advance?
>>
>>
>>
>> Prebilling would be the preferred method I would think. We billed on the
>> first and wanted to prebill. In the end, it probably didn't make a hug
>> difference to the bottom line. I just liked the thought of limiting weekday
>> someone got for nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 4:50 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>> And most communications services (phone, cable TV, etc.) are prepaid for
>> monthly charges and postpaid for usage based charges.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Smith
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:41 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Postpaid vs Prepaid / Bill in Advance?
>>
>> If you do not "pre" bill for service, such as internet access,
>> there is little to no chance of collection after the fact if
>> they decide not to pay...   We pre-bill for the "next" month
>> on the 20th, due by the 1st, suspend services on the 6th
>> for CC, ACH, etc (auto payments) that fail, then suspend
>> cash, check customers on the 10th.
>>
>> Our billing system handles this without issue (Freeside).
>>
>> --
>> Larry Smith
>> lesm...@ecsis.net
>>
>> On Mon June 27 2016 14:35, Christopher Gray wrote:
>> > I've setup my billing so everything is expected to be paid before
>> service
>> > is provided (prepaid). I send invoices in advance of a service cycle and
>> > they are due by the beginning of the service cycle. Early on, I
>> convinced
>> > myself this was a good idea so I would never have to deal with
>> collections
>> > and it seemed fair.
>> >
>> > I'm working on switching billing systems, and the new system does not
>> > really operate that way. This has me wondering if my method is really a
>> > good one, or if there are good reasons to bill at the start of a service
>> > cycle. I've gone through my bills and others I have available to me, and
>> > very few actually bill in advance of a service cycle.
>> >
>> > Is there a good reason to avoid prepaid service or that companies tend
>> not
>> > to do it?
>> >
>> > -Chris
>>
>>

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