That shit coming from Iowa last night looked pretty bad.

On 8/5/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I feared the results of that storm. Didn't lose a thing.



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*From: *"Joe Novak" <jno...@lrcomm.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, August 5, 2016 10:03:51 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

+1 Shireen DC1021


Storms that rolled through a couple weeks ago took some Ethernet ports with them of UBNT and EPMP. All of those installs where with unshielded cable. *Shrugs* It was the worse electrical storm in a couple years for us, so there is also that.



Joe

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    Not to start an ideological war, but FWIW, we don’t use shielded
    cable at residential installs.
    Typically we use Primus UTP.  Have tried Apex9 with the reel in
    the box, it’s less kinky but harder to pull from the box.  We’re
    using Shireen DC-1042 at towers now instead of Belden, so the
    Shireen UTP should be fine also.  If for some reason we wanted
    shielded for residential, I assume we’d use the DC-1042.
    *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
    *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 12:53 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
    belden something or other was the greatest
    but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter
    shit with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper
    On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com
    <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

        Shireen DC-1021


        On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

            I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable
            preferences for residential installs.  Of course looking
            for shielded Cat5 and preferably pays out of a box.




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