Oh yea, we were having GPS issues as well the 1000 that the 2000 fixed, thanks 
for reminding me George.

Mike, we have the BSA deployed in Lake In The Hills and Carpentersville 
Illinois.  I’ll send you a private email tomorrow when I have more time.  But, 
in short I’d say deploy them if you need to get higher modulations on your 
uplink.  We were having difficulty doing 5Mbps uplinks before 2000.

Joe


> On Aug 8, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> Joe's network is the case study Cambium has put out.
> 
> Do you have ones without the receive antenna in the more suburban parts of 
> your network? Okay without or does it need it? I'm looking to add some 
> sectors to that Oswego tower that we shared and contemplating the base setup 
> or going all out. If you don't remember, the interference at that site is -70 
> to -75.
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "Joe Falaschi" <listm...@wi.net <mailto:listm...@wi.net>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 5:49:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna
> 
> We have maybe about 8 EPMP 2000 radios deployed.  I think only three have the 
> beam steer antenna on them.  All new deployments that would have been 1000 
> are now 2000 because of the filtering and the ability to bolt on the beam 
> steer antenna if needed later.  Between elevation and azimuth, I think the 
> system can choose from 1 out of 256 ways to form a beam at each time slot.  I 
> could have that wrong but I remember it being a larger number than I was 
> expecting.
> 
> Joe Falaschi
> e-vergent
> 
> 
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> 
> Worst case you deploy the ePMP 2000 radio on the new sector and then you add 
> the receive beamforming antenna when you're ready to take a drink. The better 
> antenna and radio is ~$100 more than the existing setup.
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 2:44:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna
> 
> has anyone actually deployed these? we ended up opting to not go with them 
> for this round of EPMP deployments because it sounds too much like unicorns 
> farting butterflies
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> The 90*?  It's been posted a bunch of times.  There's really no other 
> possibility for that product anyway - 120 can't (won't?) do frequency reuse.
> 
> I'm not 100% on the number of beams.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
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> 
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> That's the same spec sheet I was just looking at.  No gain or beamwidth on 
> there.  Did you hear your info verbally perhaps?
>  
>  
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Sent: 8/8/2016 12:23:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna
>  
> 90* overall and I think 7x 13* individual? 
> 
> Dimensions are here 
> http://www.doubleradius.com/site/stores/cambium/Cambium-ePMP-2000-Smart-Antenna-datasheet.pdf
>  
> <http://www.doubleradius.com/site/stores/cambium/Cambium-ePMP-2000-Smart-Antenna-datasheet.pdf>
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I was noticing the spec sheet for the new ePMP 2000 beam forming antenna does 
> not mention gain, nor does it mention beamwidth.  What's the deal with that?
>  
> Wind load is also not on the spec sheet, nor the polar plot of radiation 
> pattern, but nominal gain and beamwidth would be a good place to start.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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