For a non-facilities based provider? IANAL either, but that doesn't sound right I don't think.
On Oct 13, 2016 11:23 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > You still have to file a bunch of paperwork and are subject to rules like > CPNI and possibly outage reporting, plus surprise surprise, you still have > to pay some fees like TRS and NANP. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:16 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP > > > > Something like that. IANAL either, but I think there are still lots of > people flying under the radar on this issue. If the underlying carrier is > doing the taxes and USF and such then there might not be any red flag there > where somebody would notice. > > > > That doesn't mean your compliant with the law and it doesn't mean the > *correct* taxes are being paid. > > > > I did learn at one point that if your USF contributions total less than > $10,000 / year that you're a "de minimus" provider and you're just supposed > to keep the money. You might want to look into getting it done > right....There must be a level of volume where the legal and accounting > expense is covered by the USF fees you would have to collect. > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Ken Hohhof" <*af...@kwisp.com* <af...@kwisp.com>> > > To: *af@afmug.com* <af@afmug.com> > > Sent: 10/13/2016 11:41:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP > > > > IANAL, but I believe the deciding factor is who bills the customer for the > voice services. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:*af-boun...@afmug.com* <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:29 AM > *To:* *af@afmug.com* <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] reselling SIP > > > > We resell some SIP trunks with PBX we install on our contract services > side. We are not the SIP provider in any way, but we do get paid. if its > traversing our ISP network does that technically make us a voice provider, > or are we still able to hide out as an ISP > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > >
