... What? I have a few fireTVs (box, not the sticks - well I have 1 stick but its for travel). They're not rooted, but I sideload Kodi on to them and then connect them to my media server / storage array.
Love them. On Oct 15, 2016 12:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Don't forget these rooted amazon firesticks are dominating right now. I > won't offer any support for any issue unless it's a vanilla stick. These > things are blatantly illegal like the black box descramblers for satellite > days. > > People are dropping malicious operating systems in the middle of their > trusted network left and right for "free" tv. God only knows what iot bot > net activity is also causing their xhamster buffering > > On Oct 15, 2016 12:48 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I read the word “Netflix” and my brain received “Netscape”. Talk about a >> confusing moment... >> >> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:33 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> >> >> I have a smart tv that works fine but won't update. It is an earlier >> Netflix interface but I actually like it better than the modern >> interface..... >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >> To: <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> Date: Sat, Oct 15, 2016 12:10 PM >> >> >> In your experience, does it help if the customer goes through the >> procedure to update the app on the smart TV? >> >> >> >> Most of the smart TVs we run into seem to be Samsung. I know a lot of >> the early ones also didn’t seem to play well with certain WiFi routers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Novak >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:59 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> >> >> >> In a lot of the early smart TVs - even some of the new ones - the netflix >> 'smart' modulation did not work well if at all. The Roku's and streaming >> boxes usually have perfect support for it. Hulu seems to do good too. >> Direct TV has shit poor bandwidth management, and poor peering as far as we >> could tell. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> The most recent customer I think I’ve gotten to clarify the video is >> actually stopping and starting. Previously he was saying it took a long >> time to buffer but was fine once the picture appeared. That’s what got me >> to thinking the latest complaint was impatience with how long it took >> before the video started playing, not problems while it was playing. The >> next challenge is to find out what streaming service he is using, people >> tend to call them all “Netflix”. But I rarely hear about Netflix stopping >> to buffer because Netflix can switch stream rates on the fly, if it’s >> actually Netflix and it is stopping and starting, in my experience it’s >> usually something other than just slow Internet. Like WiFi dropping out, >> or packet loss, or a Windows 10 download overloading the connection. >> >> >> >> We have transitioned to the point where people sit down in front of their >> “smart TV” and expect to watch TV, who knows what streaming service, but >> there is only one answer if it doesn’t work like old fashioned TV – your >> Internet is too slow. I had a customer call because she couldn’t watch an >> online class on her computer which was telling her “you are not connected >> to a network”, and there was an airplane symbol in the lower right. Tech >> support for the online college told her that meant her Internet was too >> slow. I was tempted to tell her the airplane symbol actually meant her >> Internet was really fast (it’s flying), otherwise it would show a car or a >> turtle. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:29 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> >> >> >> I presume the circle thing is spinning when people say buffering. >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Hohhof >> >> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 8:34 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> >> >> >> But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m wondering if when a customer >> talks about “buffering”, he really means having to wait for the video to >> start playing. >> >> >> >> And maybe I’m confused because I assume everyone is using Netflix. And >> I’m pretty sure Netflix starts the stream at a low quality so it starts >> quickly, and then ramps up the quality as the buffer fills, since their >> technology allows changing the stream quality on the fly. Other services >> like maybe Hulu and Amazon Prime may behave differently. >> >> >> >> Also with my default assumption that people are using Netflix, I don’t >> expect rebuffering because it’s been years since Netflix needed to stop and >> rebuffer at a lower stream rate, I think they do that pretty seamlessly now. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 9:09 PM >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> >> >> >> Well, people certainly want connections that support multiple streams. >> Paying for it, I'm not so sure about... at least around these parts. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Have you ever seen a 1080p youtube video load on a 1GbE active-E FTTH ISP >> that has direct peering with Google from a router 2.5ms upstream? It's a >> beautiful thing. >> >> People will absolutely pay for connections that support multiple streams, >> take a typical family of 4 or 5 people with kids that want to watch videos >> on tablets simultaneously... >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> When people say their video is “buffering”, I assume they mean >> re-buffering, where the video stops and starts. >> >> >> >> I’m starting to wonder if some people are referring to the delay before >> the video starts playing. Is this a thing? And do people pay for faster >> Internet just to make the video start faster, like cut 15-20 seconds down >> to 5 or 10 seconds? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
