Yea. I am shocked by how many personality problems he runs in to. I don't have the patience for that crap. But I am amazed at how many he can make work. At some point you would think that some of those owners would be able to look at a position and think "8 people in 12 months...maybe it is me or the position". Maybe introspection is a skill not often developed.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:04 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Marcus really takes on some stinkers. I love the show but really groan on > a frequent basis. > > *From:* Travis Johnson > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:10 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shark Tank > > Hey... > > You are correct... there are much better, faster growing investments than > a fiber company or WISP. Even if you factor in businesses that don't make > it (I've had two of those in the last two years, costing me about > $120,000). However, with the Ecoflower company I am currently at a 100x ROI > in just two years (on paper)... but I have gotten 3x my cash investment > back already via dividends. > > Even Marcus on The Profit says the same thing... he makes enough on the > companies that do work out to cover the ones that are losers. His actual > success rate is something like 10% of his investments. > > The best way to play the WISP/Fiber game is cash flow... take as much out > of the business as you can, still providing enough to grow and install new > customers. :) > > Travis > > > On 10/24/2016 9:27 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > > > If this guy/company invests in WISPs, has anyone here actually received > any money/funds from them? > > Until that happens it’s just a load of crap. > > > > I’ve talked to a good number of investors for our fiber company this year. > > It boils down to the same few items every time: > > > > They can’t afford it. > > They can afford it, but are (supposedly) making tons more interest > flipping real estate in a lot less than the 3-5 years payback that I am > offering. > > And the last, they just plain don’t want to because they are investing in > 20-30 smaller companies, all of which will die and leave them with nothing > except that ONE that will gain them 40B. > > > > Every single person or group I have talked to about investing in Fiber has > been very very positive about what I am doing and my numbers and model. > > But it just isn’t attractive enough or pays out enough fast enough to make > them move in this economic climate. > > > > My top three hopefuls at the moment are three groups/companies that are > already doing fiber or fiber related industries. > > They ‘get’ it, and are comfortable with the slower rate of return and > partnership terms. > > > > Generally speaking, the ISP model is considered a utility now, and it’s > not as sexy as I like to think it is, lol! > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:12 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Shark Tank > > > > Yup. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, October 24, 2016 9:23:58 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Shark Tank > > That Leonidas guy? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Shark Tank > > > > I've gotten several emails the past couple weeks from someone about > putting money in WISPs. I've been ignoring them so far, assuming they were > scams. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <jeffl...@att.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, October 24, 2016 6:17:16 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Shark Tank > > I know of an investment group looking specifically to invest in WISPs. > > Jeff Broadwick > > ConVergence Technologies, Inc. > > 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office > > 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell > > jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > > > On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote: > > I’ve heard that… hence my opinion that there are much better ways to get > money if that’s the only motive for doing it…. > > > > I participated a couple of times in some nearby “angel investor” groups a > few years back …. was looking for new ideas/investments - it was quite > simple for those pitching ideas… no strings attached and if someone liked > your idea then you went aside in private and discussed more details. if > not, then at least some of the folks had a chance to pitch ideas…. > > > > > > On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > > > > It was one of her personal goals to get on Shark Tank, even before I got > involved in the business. > > I can tell you now, after just getting the actual "deal" paperwork today > (she filmed months ago), this is the absolute worst deal I have ever seen > for a small business owner. Royalties, commissions, options to buy equity > up to 3 years into the future, etc. :( > > Travis > > On 10/24/2016 2:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > So it doesn't sound like she needs money since she has you. Going in for > the publicity? > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 2:15 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > ha funny guy > > > Jaime Solorza > > Wireless Systems Architect > > 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390> > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > But I gotta new old motorhome! > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 11:40 AM > > *To:* Animal Farm > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Shark Tank > > > > Crystal meth show has been done Chuck... Next!!!! > > > > On Oct 24, 2016 11:37 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > I have something on the cooker. > > > > *From:* Gino Villarini > > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 11:17 AM > > *To:* Animal Farm > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Shark Tank > > > > nice... when are we going to have a WISP venture there? > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Pretty cool. One of my favorite shows. > -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, October 24, > 2016 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Shark Tank > > Well... after four tryouts for Shark Tank, one of my investments made two > years ago, Ecoflower, will be on the November 4th episode of Shark Tank. :) > > It has been an amazing two years... watching her grow this company from > nothing to a multi-million dollar business (even before Shark Tank). When > we first met her, she was building these flower bouquets in her apartment > and selling them at farmer's markets. Now she has 60+ employees and she is > in a 26,000sqft warehouse/office. Her passion and drive is sometimes > overwhelming, but she makes things happen. :) > > http://sharktankblog.com/business/ecoflower/ > > Travis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
