This is a normal diplexer. You loose 3db for 2way and 6db for 4way + 0,5-1 
additional db.

The Airfibers have to be GPS-Synced and work at the same up/down ratio.



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Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Charles Regan
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2016 10:52
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps



That's interesting. Using multiple frequency and hope ducting affects only some 
of them? How many DB loss from the multiplexer?



On Oct 31, 2016 11:11 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If you are already using AF5X, would this be a possibility?



On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We did a link from across the bay in Corpus Cristi with Tsunami 5Ghz radios 
using 4 ft. Dishes using horizontal polarity.   5 story building on one side 
and 120 ft.  Tower at other side.   These were 10mbps radios and we got almost 
100% across.  All the other links on same roof and other water as well used 
vertical polarity and had ducting issues.   With MIMO and all kinds of polarity 
options I am sure you can find a solution.  Antenna diversity must be 
engineered for path and conditions.   Where are you trying to shoot from?



On Oct 31, 2016 6:39 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com 
<mailto:c...@infowest.com> > wrote:

Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz?

Seems a 2+0 at 6 would probably work at that distance.. although seawater is a 
factor I dunno about


On Oct 31, 2016, at 18:32, Charles Regan <charles.re...@gmail.com 
<mailto:charles.re...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well here's SAF response:
My link planning team confirmed SAF does not have a viable 5GHz radio that can 
achieve your objective for this path.

Trango:
rough calculation suggests that even using space diversity will yield a 3 - 4 
'nines' link (predicted reliability) at around 200Mbps FDX.  The use of space 
diversity will also add considerably to the cost (a complete link might be 
upwards of $50K).

I'll ask SIAE...



On Oct 31, 2016 9:19 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com 
<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > wrote:

20k?

SIAE AlfoPlus2 6 GHz 1024QAM dual polarity link. Or two pairs of alfoplus1 
1024qam (single polarity) radios running in parallel, opposite polarities, 
equal OSPF cost between routers.

Or Trango's 1024QAM 6GHz radios.

Why not SAF?  I thought there was a 6 GHz version of the Integra now.







On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Charles Regan <charles.re...@gmail.com 
<mailto:charles.re...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone,

What would you guys use for a 60 miles PTP link? 400Mbps. Oh and it's over 
seawater... 20k$ budget.

SAF, Trango both said sorry, can't do.
Mimosa B5C with space diversity and 3k$ maybe.

We do have a working AF5x with a 34dbi dish doing 150Mbps aggregate.
The link gets bad sometimes because of ducting/reflection.

How could I use two parabolics dish on different polarity with the AF5x for 
space diversity? Splitter?

Should a B5C perform better or worse ?

Charles







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