Probably the good old Panasonic 18650 3800mah

My ebike fly at 70km/h with those fully charged to 84v.

On Nov 1, 2016 10:54 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What battery technology is in this powerwall? Lithion Ion? How are they
> getting that many kilowatts in a 200 pound package?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Charles Regan <charles.re...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No special charger.  You can adjust the charging voltage and LVC on the
>> Meanwell.
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2016 4:14 PM, "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Being lithium do the Winston batteries need a special charger?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Regan
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 6:35 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It
>>> has a solar plug too. Cost is 950$
>>>
>>> Small sites has the 1500W version the the inverter and Winston 24v 60Ah
>>> lithium battery.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 60% DOD is pretty conservative.  Do you lose power a lot?  Losing power
>>> at this site is somewhat of a hypothetical event.  A Mack truck on the
>>> highway wiped out 5 poles and we ran on propane for a whole day.  The
>>> previous outage was years before, and I don't expect another one for a few
>>> more years.
>>>
>>> ...and ideally I'm only on battery for a minute or two while the genny
>>> gets started.
>>>
>>> This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable
>>> pushing beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah
>>> AGM batteries these days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 2:33 PM
>>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the
>>> price of the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put
>>> you up to somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you
>>> factor in being able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to
>>> need to add a bunch more battery.
>>>
>>> I wonder how the life expectancy compares...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's the same link I sent earlier, bro.
>>>
>>> $3049 is list price....you'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> This looks like it:
>>>
>>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>>> 120-240vac.html
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> $3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt.�
>>>
>>> Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there.
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>>> 120-240vac.html
>>>
>>> This has a street price of $2500.� The four SLA batteries were (I
>>> think) $160 each.� The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't
>>> remember what it cost.� This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add
>>> more/bigger batteries.�
>>>
>>> This doesn't have any built in network monitoring though.....does the
>>> Powerwall?
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2016 2:14 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:
>>>
>>> The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now
>>> that it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most
>>> of my sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of
>>> our standard AGM cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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