There is a This American Life episode about an ag operation the was essentially keeping H-2A workers on site as slaves. Give them 1 egg or a half egg for breakfast, crappy living conditions. It was an interesting broadcast.

-----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

Yep.  There are some ideas that could make most people happy.  I get
cheap labor for my potato farm and Joe Six Pack has a secure border.

Ken Hohhof wrote:
H-2A Agricultural Guest Worker program, but that's not exactly a model of how to do it well.


-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

You know, there are some common sense ideas that would allow "guests" to work here legally while removing the "once you're put one toe on American soil you're here to stay" mentality. Unfortunately, no president from any party has even floated the idea that I am aware of. Instead, immigrants, legal or otherwise, are permanent political pawns to to anger the susceptible.

Ken Hohhof wrote:
We have a maintenance shop bldg. next to a used car lot that
specializes in 1-2 year old Fords from auction.  He has a 15 passenger
2016 Transit 350 van sitting out there.  I was thinking you could haul
15 illegal aliens to a job site, except hasn’t Trump deported them all
by now?  So maybe 15 dishes, each gets its own seat?

I hope American teenagers are excited about all the lettuce farm, pig
farm, lawnmowing and slaughterhouse jobs that will be opening up.  You
know, the same teenagers who won’t take a job at McDonalds selling
burgers.  More likely we will just import the lettuce and pork chops
from Mexico.  Already a lot of the produce at the grocery store is
from places like Chile.

Maybe robots will replace illegal aliens, and that van can carry 15
robots to pick lettuce or do whatever yucky things they do to pigs.
It’s hard to tell with pigs, they squeal no matter what.  Pat them on
the head and feed them chocolate, or cut off body parts, either way
they squeal like it’s the end of the world.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve D
*Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:37 AM
*To:* af <af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

(Insert shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg here)

-Steve D

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