This is Fucking nuts. Now one of the ladies is saying she thought this was
part of one of those internet prank shows, that the other times they did it
with water she didn't know it was training, she just thought this was
another one for the video.

Anything to do with north Korea, how do you know what's true and what's
not, even CNN couldn't figure out a spin on this

On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
disturbing, but …



Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
Malaysia and China.



Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the front
page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was meeting
with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in public in
a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve agent.
And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was disinvited
to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the ice cream of
the future.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
(List Account)
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
*To:* af <af@afmug.com>

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.



Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that the
only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it up.



For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last election.
  I hoped to be part of the solution where we consider other alternatives
as well.





On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.



I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or right,
Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were painted a
certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their political
party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that way, if
they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have a
graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
accordingly.



Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
time.



It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM


*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
truthful and trustyworthy...



*From:* Adam Moffett

*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats" party.
Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.



Some choice quotes:

"The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-r1089-15> and was
a part of the white supremacy
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy> movement;[16]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-telegraphboots-16>
"

"The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because the
other parties are staunchly maintaining a policy of refusing cooperation
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordon_sanitaire#In_politics> with them.[25]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-25>"

"The Sweden Democrats believe that the current Swedish immigration
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden> and integration
policies have been a failure. They oppose integration because they believe
that integration involves "meeting in the middle" and do not think
that the indigenous
Swedish people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes> should have to bear
the burden "



The section on ideologies is interesting too.  They might as well have
"Make Sweden Great Again" hats.





------ Original Message ------

From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>

To: af@afmug.com

Sent: 2/23/2017 4:15:29 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



My only point is, Trump made one of his typical off-the-cuff/out his ass
utterances, he was excoriated by the left press.

Now it seems there was something of substance behind his comment.



*From:* Ken Hohhof

*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:12 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



Sweden has accepted something like 25 times as many refugees per capita
than the U.S.  And they have been mostly men who can’t find work.  Whereas
the U.S. accepts mostly women and children, who have been heavily screened,
and there are usually communities willing to help them integrate.  I’m not
sure why we are wanting to point fingers at Sweden and make some political
issue of this.



Why not instead look for a model of how to do this right?  By all accounts,
Canada is very good at this, with families virtually adopting refugees and
helping them resettle and integrate into Canadian society.



Just be happy we get some choice unlike Europe which doesn’t have the
Atlantic ocean between them and disasters like Syria.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:48 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



One for Jaime:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-
democrats-trump-was-right.html



*From:* Chuck McCown

*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:42 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



Oh, and I had a business partner for 30 years that was trans.... yes  I
have known trans people....



*From:* Ken Hohhof

*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:33 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling



Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like that
at all.  There are exceptions to everything, but if the first thing that
comes to your mind is identifying as a girl to shower with the girls, then
probably you don’t have any friends or relatives that are transgender.
Well, that is unlikely, more likely you just don’t know they are trans.



And school kids unfortunately take the brunt of this.  Anywhere else, are
there really going to be bathroom police checking birth certificates?
There’s a creepy thought.





*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:52 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT trolling



Bored.

If this was mid 1970s and if I discovered that the president said I could
shower with the girls at school it I “identified as a girl”, I sure as hell
would have identified as a girl....



I have not heard a single commentator address this issue.  Boys will be
boys.  What do the lgbtqrstuv folks have as an answer to this situation?



They don’t seem to be interested in protecting the rights of my
granddaughter to not have the boy’s football team in there after volleyball
practice.





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