It was a joke about the "Solar System"   and as  such is a birthright...

On 3/20/17 9:06 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
How much do you get paid for that.  In Phoenix, it's pretty low and they just 
added a $50 per month charge to connect to the grid.

Rory

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
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My solar system stores energy in the form of gravity potential...

On 3/20/17 5:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the bill.  So I can
use it anytime of day.

*From:* Rory Conaway
*Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla


Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car
owners.



Most of my wife’s driving is 70mph or less and more city driving than
what you probably do.  We probably charge 50 miles per day average and
the car gets about 3.5-4m per kWh.



Our worst rate is about 10.1 cents per kWh on peak during the week.
Solar doesn’t help us in charging since the care is gone at 7:30am and
doesn’t get home until after 6:30.



Rory





*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla



I am getting about 1 mile per percent.  I never trust that display, I
always use battery percentage.  But I drive 80 mph everywhere, freeway.



I am solar powered at my house and other people pay for the power other
places I charge.   So there is no cost of energy for me.



But if I was paying, it would be about 12 cents per kWh  (it can go as
low as 8 cents depending on how you do  it).  So $3.60/charge or 3
cents per mile.  (2.4 cents per mile at the lower tariff)



Hyundai was getting 34 mpg.  So 7.4 cents per mile.



*From:*Rory Conaway

*Sent:*Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:57 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla



So after 2 days with the Leaf and the 30Kw battery, our estimate is
that it’s actually underrated or they have found other ways to save
power.  I definitely notice more aggressive regen control on eco mode
but we are seeing 120-125 mile on the display even after using 5-8% of the
battery.   Considering you can drive one for about $4K a year, almost no
maintenance, and about ¼ of the cost of gas, it’s got to be one of the
best values out there.



Rory



*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:08 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla



I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software...



*From:*can...@believewireless.net

*Sent:*Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla



I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this
will hurt sales? They already did this to the Model X.

Or are they hoping the Model 3 will fill the gap?



On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

Interesting note from Tesla this morning:



Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will
have until April 16, 2017 to place their order. Any 60 kWh Model S
will have the ability to upgrade their battery to 75 kWh via an over
the air update.








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