Yeah, I'm in full agreement with legitimate issues like when a locator or contractor screws up, such as boring through a sewer line. If it was my house, they're gonna pay for it.. or else.

On 4/5/2017 10:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Assuming the other utility correctly locates their own plant.



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*From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 5, 2017 9:27:09 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] West EP homeowners fed up with AT&T fiber optic project- KVIA

Prior to bidding, all of the contractors I work with ride the whole route looking at the types of soils etc. Sometimes they even pothole to make sure what is under the surface. All underground utilities are located during design time and then located again prior to construction. This is not difficult to do right.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 04, 2017 8:44 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] West EP homeowners fed up with AT&T fiber optic project- KVIA Wow...Just shared it to point out how difficult it can be lay fiber when unexpected or unplanned obstacles pop up..... Imagine going to erect a tower base five feet deep and a few inches or feet you hit a water/gas/sewer/etc...If you or someone didn't check it out before it could be a project stopper...I don't know if contractors or AT&T hired a survey company to analyze conditions. I wonder what some of the FTTH guys on this list do before they start building out .....From experience, when we build out SCADA projects, we get drawings and studies done way before we start by engineering firms. We attend meetings where all these items are discussed. I imagine you guys do your homework ...It just makes business sense.
On Apr 4, 2017 8:18 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

    Give me the fastest internet possible for my Netflix and porn. Oh,
    and I want it for $3.95/mo. Wait, why are you digging up my yard?
    I don't want cable, I just want internet! Get outta here! OK, now
    I'm only getting 921Mbps. I'm paying for 1.0Gbps! Fix it now!!!

    Over-privileged first-world fucks.


    On 4/4/2017 8:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

        Ah?  Did you not see the mountains? My son lives really close
        to this area.


        
http://www.kvia.com/news/el-paso/west-ep-homeowners-fed-up-with-att-fiber-optic-project/433306313




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