I’ve got a ledge in the middle.  I have done that though, under bridges.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Have you considered skeeming to ground under the trees?

On May 16, 2017 9:19 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Not in this case.  If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower they 
run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7 T1’s for 300 kids) or the medical 
clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down or trim a 
mile of trees.

Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a plan, just be 
patient”.  Not really my strong suit. This plan involves towers but nobody 
knows who gets awarded or when.    So, 2.4GHz through a mile of trees, here I 
come.

I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want to have to pay 
tower climbers so do this twice.  I’m going to do the 8’ dish on the tower and 
2’ dish on the roof.  Once I see those numbers, I can make adjustments on the 
roof.  Biggest issue is AF2 through trees.  I’m thinking that I’m bringing up a 
pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare.  I’m also considering putting up a 
Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Actually, you would be surprised.  I have asked them to remove trees in a 
microwave path before and they had no problem doing it.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry service 
frowns on that.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' dishes, vs 
chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with 2.5'/3' size 
dishes to get real LOS?



On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably going 
to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered frequency 
range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti overstates their 
gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements. Similar to how they 
say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively bs, the max 99.99% 
availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere on earth that a 
substantial number of those radios coild be installed.

On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" 
<cg...@graytechsoftware.com<mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>> wrote:
Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a 900mm 
dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com understates 
their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but the L-Com 900mm 
dish is only rated at 25 dBi.

I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.

http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas

-Chris


On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be equipped 
with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The Radiowaves 
stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing to bet the Radiowaves 
3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering unwanted 2.4 noise from 
the sides...

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.

Rory



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