Couple years ago we installed an 8 ft. 11GHz Radiowaves antenna 80 ft. high on 200 ft. tower. We had to wait until a Sunday morning at 530am to hoist up when winds were almost nil. Two tower monkeys and 6 ground crew ...the mount was already in place so all we brought up was dish and attached it mount....easy to do with these antennas. Then attached Dragonwave radio.
On May 16, 2017 2:50 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > An 8' dish is way over 500 pounds. Do you have any idea how expensive it > is to put an 8' dish on a tower??? And have you calculated if the tower > can even take the new wind loading of an 8' dish at EIA/TIA 222G > calculations for its exposure category? > > Weight aside the wind loading of an 8' dish is considerable. > > If you do end up hanging the thing from a man lift I want photos, because > there are a few OSHA inspectors I would like to give nightmares to. > > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote: > >> I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> These are not real fun >> >> Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and >> >> a good crane operator >> >> >> >> Mitch >> >> >> >> On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> 16’ dish >> >> >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM >> >> *To:* af >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have some >> kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea of what's >> going to happen when you get bigger dishes on there. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >> The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the antenna isn’t >> an issue. It’s more important that the link work. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going to do seems >> kind of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be cheap to put that up. I >> would want to put up some kind of a test link before I went there, even if >> it was just a pair of PowerBeams. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >> I ran the numbers in linkplanner. Too much tree variable for anything to >> be accurate. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM >> >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, use >> the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foliage and >> voila! >> >> >> >> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway < >> r...@triadwireless.net> >> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM >> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> Not in this case. If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower >> they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7 T1’s for 300 kids) or the >> medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down >> or trim a mile of trees. >> >> >> >> Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a plan, just >> be patient”. Not really my strong suit. This plan involves towers but >> nobody knows who gets awarded or when. So, 2.4GHz through a mile of >> trees, here I come. >> >> I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want to have to >> pay tower climbers so do this twice. I’m going to do the 8’ dish on the >> tower and 2’ dish on the roof. Once I see those numbers, I can make >> adjustments on the roof. Biggest issue is AF2 through trees. I’m thinking >> that I’m bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare. I’m >> also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> Actually, you would be surprised. I have asked them to remove trees in a >> microwave path before and they had no problem doing it. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> >> President >> >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway >> >> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM >> >> *To:*af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry >> service frowns on that. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke >> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' dishes, >> vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with 2.5'/3' >> size dishes to get real LOS? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >> I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably >> going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Colin Stanners >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >> Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered >> frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti >> overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements. >> Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively >> bs, the max 99.99% availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere >> on earth that a substantial number of those radios coild be installed. >> >> >> >> On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" <cg...@graytechsoftware.com> >> wrote: >> >> Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a >> 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com >> understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but >> the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi. >> >> >> >> I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit. >> >> >> >> http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized- >> dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas >> >> >> >> -Chris >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be >> equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The >> Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing to bet >> the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering >> unwanted 2.4 noise from the sides... >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >> Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mitch Koep >> >> >> >> A Better Wireless >> >> 218-851-8689 <(218)%20851-8689> cell >> >> >
