A back channel? ( Too easy) On May 26, 2017 10:47 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> can we revisit this quarterly? > > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote: > >> Hey Paul …. thanks for the clarification and apologies if I suggested >> that this was around cost…. I know I do and many folks on this list >> appreciate the work being done here to support the list. >> >> I like a list that is self policing and low on formal policies … yes, >> every mailing list needs some rules for sure but keeping it “loose” works >> well for a group like this IMHO >> >> Personally, I like this list a lot - it’s a “goto” list for me even >> though day to day I don’t work with a lot of wireless (our company has a >> WISP operation but I’m only involved from the distance). I like the list >> because it’s mainly WISP folks who often come up with the absolute most >> creative ways to approach problems … that’s just my take. >> >> thanks, >> Paul >> >> >> >> On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >> My comment truly was NOT about cost. I GLADLY did this to support Chuck >> and support the valued members that found the list a great resource. >> PDMNet wanted to give back to the WISP community. >> >> Just for the record, the list costs about $ 150 /month (varies slightly >> by traffic) on an AWS server, plus $ 99 /month for medium priority >> support. I could cut out the support probably because we haven’t needed it >> now for at least 6 months. At the time, there was a LOT of setup, and I >> mean a LOT to fully integrate properly with AWS. They are very particular >> to how email flows, their API etc. We had this discussion early on, and I >> believe we made the right decision. After the loooong setup, we haven’t >> deal with a server based delivery issue in over a year. No getting >> blacklisted, no other drama. We wanted simple and stable and relatively >> maintenance free. I love maintenance free. >> >> I love the light-hearted nature of the members and until the political >> season came, the “extra stuff” didn’t phase me (or others). I absolutely >> LOVE hear about Travis other business efforts, or stocks people are >> investing or anything like that. That’s what USED TO BE labeled as OT: I >> wouldn’t want to filter that. I love hearing what this groups other >> opinions are on a multitude of OT subjects. On the flip side, I can’t >> stand the absolute garbage that gets spewed (JMO) over and over… and >> over. We get it. You don’t like the president AT ALL. You want to >> continue to trash him ALL the time. We get it. We truly do. You have >> fully expressed yourself. You won’t change anybody’s mind who does hatse >> the president or his policies. Ever. Move on. PLEASE. JMO >> >> As Forrest said, the better we get at running our business, the less >> technical questions get asked and the group has a social feel. While it >> does take just a while to delete the obvious junk by its title, it seems to >> creep into many other “normal threads” also. The last 6 months, good >> contributing members have become distant or gone completely. Some people >> do not want to have to sort through the muck. Same reason I chose to never >> watch CNN or FoxNews on TV. It’s mostly garbage. Sometimes people don’t >> complain. They just go away. I chose to say something. >> >> Chuck wants the list to be self-policing. Create a new subject header >> like PRS: for blatantly Political, Religious, and Social) or something >> similar and then we can truly filter that “stuff” so we never see it. >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Paul Stewart >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2017 6:57 AM >> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP >> non-business related discussions >> >> I offered before to run it for free …. just saying .. and I know there >> were others too … >> >> Running mailing lists isn’t a major investment especially if you already >> have the infrastructure (which I do) >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 1, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I agree. The list keeps me out of the bar. I know it's too far to drive >> anyway, but it's my excuse. I would be happy to through in something to >> avoid draining Paul's bank account. There are plenty of us. Couldn't be >> more than $100/month each. >> >> bp >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:09 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >> >> I can two click delete emails from this list, last few weeks have been >> utter garbage for sure. >> >> What's the monthly cost of the list? I think those of us that have >> benefited from it could throw a few bucks to help you out. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >> I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the >> list directly, so here goes. >> >> *Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or >> two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all >> the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to >> because of that. * >> >> *While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS >> is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point >> of my comment.* >> >> *People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on >> important technology and business needs, IMO. * >> >> *It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.* >> >> Paul >> >> >> Paul McCall, President >> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. >> 658 Old Dixie Highway >> Vero Beach, FL 32962 >> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800> >> pa...@pdmnet.net >> www.pdmnet.com >> www.floridabroadband.com >> >> >> >
