alot is dependent on area. Urban, most definitely allow for self defense
weapons withing local applicable law. If you have a 2A guy who gets harmed
and you have a policy disallowing self defense, then thats a liability,
then again so is a yahoo with a gun in your truck.
We go into too many banks and schools, and other prohibited location, i
would not carry at work
I do however always have a 36 inch 1 7/8 water pipe for discussions and
conflict resolution

Training itself is another liability, say you offer self defense training
to your guys, and one of them beats some mope to a pulp, you trained him to
do that, even though its well outside the scope of a self defense class.
Then again, dont train him and have a mope beat him to a pulp, theres
liability in that too.

I have a tech right now who may spar with a customer we have to go out to
over the customers recent antics. Im trying to get the boss to get him a
gladiator outfit and helmet. Nobody will start stuff with a guy dressed
like a gladiator, its best to just eliminate the issue before it even
starts.

Get everybody a gladiator helmet, maybe let them carry a cudgel, or a
shillelagh



On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Gun control is pretty political...
>
> Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to have.
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation
> Mitigation.
>
> LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making
> the video).
>
> And so you are in agreement that :-
> "If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to defend
> themselves"
>
> Would not be the better, smarter or wiser way of dealing with such !
>
> :)
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 <(305)%20663-5518> x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation
> Mitigation.
>
> Call cops.
> Duck for cover.
> Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed.
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation
> Mitigation.
>
> Let's turn this into a productive conversation, with relevance...
>
> We all have crews working outside... so what should be the SOP for them,
> under such circumstances ?
> What type of training do we need to provide to assure everyone's safety ?
> What should be the reactions expected from the OSP Crew ?
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:59:34 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks
>
> YES, PLEASE keep this the pleasant WISP business related site that we have
> re-established.  We all have opinions, but…
>
>
>
> Paul 😊
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks
>
>
>
> Disparity in how cops treat perps based on skin color is very political,
> like global warming, evolution and the flat earth.
>
>
>
> All of which should be discussed on other forums as they have nothing to
> do with operating a WISP.
>
>
>
> We lost Ken Hohof over this kind of thing last fall.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:34 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks
>
>
>
> one last question...
>
>
>
> >> for this political BS
>
>
>
> Please do tell me how the Hell, what I posted and said is "political"  ?
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Dustin Jurman" <dus...@rseng.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:03:56 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks
>
> That’s just wrong Faisal to perpetuate this on this list.  There were a
> lot of great things you could have stated here:
>
>
>
> Was AT&T on the guys property without permission?
>
> Safety of the guy in the bucket while someone is shooting the tires out.
>
> Safety of the guy in the bucket while engine/controls get shot out
>
> How the ground guys handled the situation
>
> If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to defend
> themselves
>
>
>
> You get where I’m going but this list has no place for this political BS.
> The sad part is you sent this to the list.
>
>
>
> Dustin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks
>
>
>
> Welcome to Miami
>
>
>
> *http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/
> <http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/>*
>
>
>
>
>
> -----------------
>
> Here is the sad reality....
>
>
>
> Since this was an elderly white male, he was arrested..
>
> If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person most likely would have
> been shot on sight by the Cops.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:05:33 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYUJa3rsEU
>
> Happened today.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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