alot is dependent on area. Urban, most definitely allow for self defense weapons withing local applicable law. If you have a 2A guy who gets harmed and you have a policy disallowing self defense, then thats a liability, then again so is a yahoo with a gun in your truck. We go into too many banks and schools, and other prohibited location, i would not carry at work I do however always have a 36 inch 1 7/8 water pipe for discussions and conflict resolution
Training itself is another liability, say you offer self defense training to your guys, and one of them beats some mope to a pulp, you trained him to do that, even though its well outside the scope of a self defense class. Then again, dont train him and have a mope beat him to a pulp, theres liability in that too. I have a tech right now who may spar with a customer we have to go out to over the customers recent antics. Im trying to get the boss to get him a gladiator outfit and helmet. Nobody will start stuff with a guy dressed like a gladiator, its best to just eliminate the issue before it even starts. Get everybody a gladiator helmet, maybe let them carry a cudgel, or a shillelagh On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Gun control is pretty political... > > Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to have. > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making > the video). > > And so you are in agreement that :- > "If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to defend > themselves" > > Would not be the better, smarter or wiser way of dealing with such ! > > :) > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 <(305)%20663-5518> x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > Call cops. > Duck for cover. > Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed. > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > Let's turn this into a productive conversation, with relevance... > > We all have crews working outside... so what should be the SOP for them, > under such circumstances ? > What type of training do we need to provide to assure everyone's safety ? > What should be the reactions expected from the OSP Crew ? > > > Regards. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:59:34 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > YES, PLEASE keep this the pleasant WISP business related site that we have > re-established. We all have opinions, but… > > > > Paul 😊 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:40 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > > > Disparity in how cops treat perps based on skin color is very political, > like global warming, evolution and the flat earth. > > > > All of which should be discussed on other forums as they have nothing to > do with operating a WISP. > > > > We lost Ken Hohof over this kind of thing last fall. > > > > > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:34 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > > > one last question... > > > > >> for this political BS > > > > Please do tell me how the Hell, what I posted and said is "political" ? > > > > Regards. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Dustin Jurman" <dus...@rseng.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:03:56 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > That’s just wrong Faisal to perpetuate this on this list. There were a > lot of great things you could have stated here: > > > > Was AT&T on the guys property without permission? > > Safety of the guy in the bucket while someone is shooting the tires out. > > Safety of the guy in the bucket while engine/controls get shot out > > How the ground guys handled the situation > > If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to defend > themselves > > > > You get where I’m going but this list has no place for this political BS. > The sad part is you sent this to the list. > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:18 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > > > Welcome to Miami > > > > *http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/ > <http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/>* > > > > > > ----------------- > > Here is the sad reality.... > > > > Since this was an elderly white male, he was arrested.. > > If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person most likely would have > been shot on sight by the Cops. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:05:33 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYUJa3rsEU > > Happened today. > > > > > > >